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Marriage: Children:
  1. Sir Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley Death: 1210
  2. Hawise De SOMERY

Marriage:
Bibliography
  1. Bevan, Rosie, Corrections to K. S. B. Keats-Rohan's Domesday Series, Volume II: Domesday Descendants. Version 7, 25 Sep 2005. Available at http://www.fmg.ac/Projects/Domesday/ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Bevan DD++ p[0-9]*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 10, Oakham-Richmond. London: St Catherine Press, 1945. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP X [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
Ralph PAYNEL & probably dau Robert de FERRERS & Hawise [Ref: Weis AR7 #55],
father:
[Ref: CP X p320, CP XII/1 p110, Keats-Rohan DD p1056, Keats-Rohan DD p1057, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671, Sanders Baronies p113, Weis AR7 #81],
brother:
Gervase PAYNELL [Ref: CP X p320, CP XII/1 p110, Keats-Rohan DD p1056, Weis AR7 #55, Weis AR7 #81]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
parents:
Gervase PAGENEL (#18887) & Isabel de BEAUMONT (#20906) [Ref: Watney WALLOP #757]
Gervase PAYNEL (#18887) & Isabel De BEAUMONT (#20906) [Ref: Watney WALLOP #905]
Sources for death Information
date:
after 1196 [Ref: Bevan DD++ p321]
before 1208-09 [Ref: CP XII/1 p110(c)]
dead in 1208-09 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671]
Sources with Inaccurate death Information
date:
1194 [Ref: Sanders Baronies p113]
Sources with Information about marriage to John De SOMERY
date:
first marriage of Hawise [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p1056, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671, Sanders Baronies p113, Weis AR7 #55],
names:
[Ref: CP XII/1 p109, Keats-Rohan DD p1057, Watney WALLOP #757],
child:
[Ref: CP X p320, CP XII/1 p110, Keats-Rohan DD p1056, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671, Sanders Baronies p113, Watney WALLOP #905, Weis AR7 #55, Weis AR7 #81]
Sources with Information about marriage to Roger De BERKELEY
date:
1196/7 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671]
abt 1196 [Ref: Bevan DD++ p321, Weis AR7 #55]
second marriage of Hawise [Ref: CP XII/1 p110, CP++(proposed) Somery 12/31/2006 (CP XII/1 p110), Keats-Rohan DD p1056, Sanders Baronies p113]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
names:
Roger de BERKELEY (#71059) & Hawise de PAYNELL [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p321, Sanders Baronies p114(8)],
child:
Roger de BERKELEY of Dursley (#147869) [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p321]
Research Notes:
1194: neiress to her brother, Gervase [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671]

heir of her brother Gervase [Ref: CP XII/1 p110]



Pedigree of Hawise De PAYNELL
                   /-----William PAYNEL
          /-----Fulk PAYNEL
 /-----Ralph PAYNEL, Baron Of Dudley
|        |                           /-----Asculf De PINKENY
|        |                  /-----Ansculf
|        |         /-----William FITZ ANSCULF, Baron Of Dudley
|         \-----Beatrix
Hawise De PAYNELL
|                           /-----Walkelin De FERRIERES
|                  /-----Henry De FERRERS, Baron Of Tutbury
|         /-----Robert FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
|        |         \-----Bertha
 \-----(Unk Dau) De FERRERS
         |                                    /-----Rivallon The Vicaire
         |                           /-----Triscan
         |                          |         \-----Guenergant Vicountess Of Rennes
         |                  /-----Robert I Princeps Of Vitre
         |                 |         \-----Enoguen
         |         /-----Andre I De Vitre
         |        |        |                  /-----Suthardus Vetulus De CREDONE
         |        |        |         /-----Guerin I De CRAON
         |        |         \-----Bertha Dame De Craon
          \-----Hawise
                  |                  /-----Herluin De Contreville
                  |         /-----Robert De Mortain, Count Of Mortain In Avranchi
                  |        |        |         /-----Fulbert Of Falaise
                  |        |         \-----Herleve Of Falaise
                  |        |                  \-----Duxia
                   \-----Agnes Of Mortain
                           |                           /-----Hugh De Montgomery
                           |                  /-----Roger De Montgomery, Seigneur Of Montgomery
                           |                 |         \-----Josceline
                           |                 |                  \-----Senfrie
                           |         /-----Roger De Montgomery, Earl Of Shrewsbury
                           |        |         \-----Emma
                            \-----Maud De Montgomery
                                    |                           /-----Guilleume Lord of Belleme
                                    |                  /-----William I Count Of Alencon And Bellasme
                                    |                 |         \-----Mathilda Dame De Conde-Sur-Noireau
                                    |         /-----William II TALVAS
                                    |        |         \-----Mathilde
                                     \-----Mabel De Belesme
                                             |         /-----Arnulf
                                              \-----Hildeburg



Descendants of Hawise De PAYNELL
1. Hawise De PAYNELL m1. John De SOMERY m2. Roger De BERKELEY
m. John De SOMERY
m. Roger De BERKELEY father: Nicholas De BERKELEY mother: Ala

2nd generation

2. Sir Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m. Margaret Le GROS
m. Margaret Le GROS father: William Le GROS mother: (Unk dau) Marshall
3. Hawise De SOMERY m. Walter MANSEL
m. Walter MANSEL father: Sir Robert MANSEL mother: Joice De ALVETO

3rd generation

4. Joan SOMERY m. Thomas De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley
m. Thomas De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley father: Maurice FITZROBERT FITZHARDING, Baron Of Berkele mother: Alice De BERKELEY
5. Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m. Ida LONGSPEE
m. Ida LONGSPEE father: William LONGESPEE, Earl of Salisbury mother: Ela Of Salisbury
6. William Perceval De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m. Rohese De VERDUN
m. Rohese De VERDUN father: Nicholas De VERDUN mother: Clemence
7. Sir Roger De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m1. Nichole D'AUBIGNY m2. Amabil De CHAUCOMBE
m. Nichole D'AUBIGNY father: William D'AUBIGNY, Earl Of Arundel mother: Mabel Of Chester
m. Amabil De CHAUCOMBE father: Sir Robert De CHAUCOMBE mother: Julian De CORNHILL
8. Isabel SOMERY m. Sir Alan De ENGLEFIELD
m. Sir Alan De ENGLEFIELD
9. Sir John MANSEL m. Joan BEAUCHAMP
m. Joan BEAUCHAMP father: Sir Simon II De BEAUCHAMP

4th generation

10. Maurice De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley m. Isabel FITZ ROY
m. Isabel FITZ ROY father: Richard Fitz Roy, Baron Of Chilham mother: Rohese De DOVER
17. Margaret De BERKELEY m1. Sir John FITZ MATTHEW, Baron Of Erlestoke m2. Sir Anset BASSETT
m. Sir John FITZ MATTHEW, Baron Of Erlestoke father: Matthew Fitz HERBERT mother: Joan PATRIC
m. Sir Anset BASSETT
20. Joan De SOMERY m. John IV Le STRANGE
m. John IV Le STRANGE father: John III Le STRANGE mother: Lucy TREGOZE
21. Mabel De SOMERY m. Walter De SULLY
m. Walter De SULLY father: Raymond De SULLY
22. Margaret De SOMERY m1. Ralph BASSET m2. Sir Ralph De CROMWELL
m. Ralph BASSET father: Ralph BASSET
m. Sir Ralph De CROMWELL father: Ralph De CROMWELL
24. Maud SOMERY m1. Sir Henry De ERDINGTON m2. Sir William De BIFELD
m. Sir Henry De ERDINGTON father: Giles De ERDINGTON
m. Sir William De BIFELD
25. Sir John Percival De SOMERY m.
26. Sir Roger De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m. Agnes De LUCY
m. Agnes De LUCY father: Robert De LUCY mother: Emma De SACKVILLE
28. Sir Thomas MANSEL m. Haua GREY
m. Haua GREY father: Sir Henry GREY

5th generation

34. Sir Thomas De BERKELEY, Lord Berkeley m. Joan De FERRERS
m. Joan De FERRERS father: William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby mother: Margaret De QUINCEY
41. Margaret Le STRANGE m. Rhys Ap GRIFFITH Ap Ednyfed Vychan
m. Rhys Ap GRIFFITH Ap Ednyfed Vychan
42. John V LESTRANGE, Lord Strange m1. Alienore De MONTZ m2. Maud De WALTON
m. Alienore De MONTZ father: Eble De MONTZ mother: Joan De BOHUN
m. Maud De WALTON father: John De WALTON mother: Isabel
43. Sir Raymond De SULLY m.
45. Ralph BASSET, Lord Basset Of Drayton m. Hawise Le DESPENSER
m. Hawise Le DESPENSER father: Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Justiciar Of England mother: Aline BASSET
47. Ralph De CROMWELL m. Joan De SOMERVILLE
m. Joan De SOMERVILLE father: Robert De SOMERVILLE mother: Isabel De MERLAY
49. John De CROMWELL, Lord Cromwell m. Idoine De VIPONT
m. Idoine De VIPONT father: Robert De VESPONT mother: Isabel FITZ JOHN
51. Sir Henry De ERDINGTON, Lord Erdington m. Joan WOLVEY
m. Joan WOLVEY father: Sir Thomas De WOLVEY mother: Alice De CLINTON
55. Margaret De SOMERY, Baroness Dudley m. Sir John I De SUTTON, Lord Of Dudley Castle
m. Sir John I De SUTTON, Lord Of Dudley Castle father: Richard De SUTTON mother: Isabel PATRICK
56. Joan De SOMERY m. Sir Thomas De BOTETOURTE
m. Sir Thomas De BOTETOURTE father: John De BOTETOURTE, Lord Botetourte mother: Maud FITZ THOMAS
57. Miles De SOMERY m.
58. Henry MANSEL m. Ellinor HAELS
m. Ellinor HAELS father: Hugh HAELS