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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Jean Of Ligny
  2. Guy Count Of Ligny, And St. Pol Death: 22 Aug 1371 in Baseweiler
  3. Maria Of Luxemburg Birth: Abt 1332 Death: Before 5 Jul 1381
  4. Waleran Of Ligny
  5. Jacques Of Ligny
  6. Henri Of Ligny
  7. Jean Of Ligny, Archbishop of Mainz
  8. Philipotte Of Ligny
  9. Catherine Of Ligny
  10. Jeanne Of Ligny

Bibliography
  1. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. II: Die Ausserdeutschen Staaten Die Regierenden Hauser der Ubrigen Staaten Europas. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES II #[0-9]*].
  2. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. VI: Familien des Alten Lotharingien I. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES VI #[0-9]*].
  3. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1[pc][0-9]*].
  4. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p[0-9]*].
  5. Thompson, Neil D, and Hansen, Charles M, Medieval Heritage: The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England, The Genealogist, 2:157-68, 3:25-44, 3:175-94, 4:144-58, 5:64-72, 5:226-39, 6:100-3, 6:148-65, 7-8:137-43, 9:40-4, 10:73-85, 11:63-72, 11:184-93, 12:83-90, 12:250-6, 13:92-9, 13:252-6, 14:81-4, 14:207-10, 15:99-103, 15:220-4, 16:93-8, 16:227-31, 17:61-4, 17:250-5, 18:123-7, 18:228-31, 19:62-8, 19:251-5, 20:85-8, 20:184-90, 21:71-5, 21:250-4, 22:101-6, 22:186-91, 23:73-9, 23:203-8, 24:110-27, 24:239-54, 25:56-73, 25:214-32, 26:77-101, 26:202-26, 27:189, 28:90, 33:300. NYPL APA 82-1000. Available at https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/genealogist-the/image/. Reprinted, with further corrections, as Thompson, Neil D, and Hansen, Charles M, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage. Saline, Michigan: McNaughton & Gunn, 2012. NYPL ARF 13-5787. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v[0-9]*-[0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p236, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p141, Thompson CharlesII v26-80],
father:
[Ref: ES II #8, ES VI #28, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p422]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
mother:
Beatrix von Putten (#32758) [Ref: ES II #8],
note:
ES II#8 lists Alix as dau by second wife (m.Oct1321), but her dau Marie of Luxemburg was mother of Marguerite de Joinville b.Jan1354. Tight chronology is questionable. Anselme shows Alix by first wife. Conclude by first wife [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v26-80(278)]
Sources for death Information
date:
1346 [Ref: ES VI #28]
4 May 1346 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p237]
4.V 1346 [Ref: ES II #8]
before 4 May 1346 [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v19-62]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p237, Thompson CharlesII v19-62]
Sources with Information about marriage to Jean I Count Of Ligny, And St. Pol
date:
10.VII 1330 [Ref: ES II #8, ES VI #28]
contract 10 Jul 1330 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p236, Thompson CharlesII v19-62],
names:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p142],
child:
[Ref: ES VI #28, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p237, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p422, Thompson CharlesII v19-62, Thompson CharlesII v25-218]
Research Notes:
1345: heiress of Richebourg [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v19-62]

Erbin v Richebourg [Ref: ES VI #28]

ES II #8 (Flanders) shows Guy of Flanders m(1) Marie d'Enghiem, d.1318, and m(2) Oct 1321 Beatrix von Putten, d.18 Jun 1354. It lists his daughter, Alex, heiress of Richebourg as by the second wife. Based on thedate of Guy's second marriage, Oct 1321, Alix would not have been born earlier thansay July 1322. Her daughter, marie of Luxemburg, was mother of Marguerite de Joinville, b.Jan 1354. As this gives less than 32 years between Alix's bithin Jul 1322 at the earliest, and Marguerite's birth in Jan 1354, this would mean that Alix and her daughter Marie both gave birth under 16, or one at say 17 and the other at 14. Such a tight chronology is highly questionable. Anselme 2:743 shows Alix was by Guy's first wife, and lists no children by his second wife, Beatrix. Anselme identifies Guy's first wife hereas Isabeau de Bar, rather than as Marie d'Enghien. Cassanovas and Turton follow Anselme 2:743. However, Anselme, at 3:723 identifies Alex as the only daughter of Guy of Flanders and marie d'Enghien. Goffin, the best and most reliable authority on Enghien, gives Guy's wife as marie d'Enghien. Based on Anselme 3:723 and Goffin, and on the above analysis of the chronology, we conclude that Alix was daughter of Guy by his first wife, Marie d'Enghien [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v26-80(278)]



Pedigree of Alix Of Flanders
                                                                /-----Thibaud Seigneur De Dampierre
                                                       /-----Gui I Seigneur De Dampierre, Vicomte Of Troyes
                                                      |         \-----Isabel
                                              /-----William Seigneur De Dampierre, Constable Of Cham
                                             |        |         /-----Andre Seigneur De Baudmont
                                             |         \-----Helvide Of Baudemont
                                             |                  \-----Agnes Heiress Of Braine
                                     /-----Guy II Seigneur De Dampierre
                                    |        |                  /-----Dreux III Seigneur De Morichy
                                    |        |         /-----Dreux IV Seigneur De Morichy
                                    |        |        |         \-----Edith De WARENNE
                                    |         \-----Ermengarde
                                    |                 |         /-----Lancelin II Of Beauvais
                                    |                  \-----Basilie
                                    |                           \-----Adele De Bulles
                            /-----William Seigneur De Dampierre
                           |        |                           /-----Aymon II Vaire-Vache Sire De Bourbon
                           |        |                  /-----Archambaud VII The Strong Seigneur De Bourbon
                           |        |                 |         \-----Aldesinde Of Nevers
                           |        |         /-----Archambaud VIII The Young Seigneur De Bourbon
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Humbert II Count Of Maurienne And Savoy
                           |        |        |         \-----Agnes Of Savoy
                           |        |        |                  \-----Gisele Of Burgundy
                           |         \-----Matilda De BOURBON, Dame De Bourbon
                           |                 |                  /-----Hugh II Duke Of Burgundy
                           |                 |         /-----Eudes II Duke Of Burgundy
                           |                 |        |         \-----Mechtild Of Mayenne
                           |                  \-----Alice Of Burgundy
                           |                          |         /-----Theobald IV Count Of Blois
                           |                           \-----Mary Of Blois
                           |                                    \-----Matilda Of Carinthia
                   /-----Guy De Dampierre Count Of Flanders
                  |        |                                    /-----Baldwin III Count Of Hainault
                  |        |                           /-----Baldwin IV Count Of Hainault
                  |        |                          |         \-----Yolande Of Guelders
                  |        |                  /-----Baldwin V Count Of Hainaut And Namur
                  |        |                 |        |         /-----Godfrey Count Of Namur
                  |        |                 |         \-----Alix De NAMUR
                  |        |                 |                  \-----Ermesinde
                  |        |         /-----Baldwin IX Eastern Emperor
                  |        |        |        |                  /-----Thierry II Duke Of Lorraine
                  |        |        |        |         /-----Thierry Of Lorraine, Count Of Flanders
                  |        |        |        |        |         \-----Gertrude Of Flanders
                  |        |        |         \-----Margarite Of Lorraine, Heiress Of Flanders
                  |        |        |                 |         /-----Fulk V The Young Count Of Anjou, King Of Jerusalem
                  |        |        |                  \-----Sybil Of Anjou
                  |        |        |                           \-----Erembourg Of Maine
                  |         \-----Margaret Of Flanders
                  |                 |                           /-----Stephen Count Of Blois, Leader Of First Crusade
                  |                 |                  /-----Theobald IV Count Of Blois
                  |                 |                 |         \-----Adela
                  |                 |         /-----Henry I Count Of Champagne
                  |                 |        |        |         /-----Engelbert II Duke Of Corinthia, Margrave Of Istria
                  |                 |        |         \-----Matilda Of Carinthia
                  |                 |        |                  \-----Uta Of Passau
                  |                  \-----Mary Of Champagne
                  |                          |                  /-----Louis VI The Fat King Of France
                  |                          |         /-----Louis VII The Young King Of France
                  |                          |        |         \-----Adelaide Of Savoy
                  |                           \-----Mary
                  |                                   |         /-----William VIII Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
                  |                                    \-----Eleanor Duchess Of Aquitaine
                  |                                             \-----Eleanor De CHASTELLERAULT
          /-----Wilhelm IV Landless Sire Of Dendermonde
         |        |                                             /-----Robert IV Advocate Of St. Bertin
         |        |                                    /-----Guillaume I Of Bethune
         |        |                                   |         \-----Adelide Of Peronne
         |        |                           /-----Robert V Lord Of Bethune
         |        |                          |        |         /-----Hugues II Of Cambrai, Lord Of Chocques
         |        |                          |         \-----Clemence Of Cambrai
         |        |                          |                  \-----Hildegarde
         |        |                  /-----Guillaume II De BETHUNE, Baron Of Rothersthorpe
         |        |                 |        |                  /-----Hugh II Count Of St. Pol
         |        |                 |        |         /-----Hugh III Count Of St. Pol
         |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Helisande Of Ponthieu
         |        |                 |         \-----Adelaide Of St Pol
         |        |                 |                 |         /-----Renaud Count Of Clermont
         |        |                 |                  \-----Marguerite Of Clermont
         |        |                 |                           \-----Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
         |        |         /-----Robert VII Seigneur De Bethene
         |        |        |        |         /-----Walter II Of Dendermonde
         |        |        |         \-----Mathilde Of Dendermonde
         |         \-----Maud Of Bethune
         |                 |         /-----Arnoul IV Lord Of Morialme
         |                  \-----Elisabeth Of Morialme
 /-----Guy Of Richebourg
|        |                                                      /-----Hugh Count Of Clermont
|        |                                             /-----Renaud Count Of Clermont
|        |                                            |         \-----Margaret De Roucy
|        |                                    /-----Simon I Lord Of Ailly
|        |                                   |        |         /-----Renaud I Count Of Bar
|        |                                   |         \-----Clemence Of Bar-Le-Duc
|        |                                   |                  \-----Gisele De VAUDEMONT
|        |                           /-----Raoul I De Clairmont, Lord Of Ailly
|        |                          |        |                  /-----Evrard III Count Of Breteuil
|        |                          |        |         /-----Valeron III Count Of Breteuil
|        |                          |        |        |         \-----Beatrix Of Marle
|        |                          |         \-----Mathilde Of Breteuil
|        |                          |                  \-----Haldeburge
|        |                          |                           \-----Beatrice
|        |                  /-----Simon II Lord Of Ailly And Nesle
|        |                 |        |                           /-----Radulf Lord Of Nesle
|        |                 |        |                  /-----Raoul Of Nesle, Burggraf Of Brugge
|        |                 |        |                 |         \-----Rainurde
|        |                 |        |         /-----Jean I Lord Of Nesle, Bggf Of Brugge
|        |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Lambert Count Of Montaigu
|        |                 |        |        |         \-----Gertrude Of Montaigu
|        |                 |        |        |                  \-----(Unk Dau) Of Louvain
|        |                 |         \-----Gertrude Of Nesle
|        |                 |                 |         /-----Johann I Of Peterghem
|        |                 |                  \-----Elisabeth Of Peteghem
|        |         /-----Raoul De CLERMONT, Lord Of Nesle, Vicount Of C
|        |        |        |                                    /-----Simon De MONTFORT, Count Of Evreux
|        |        |        |                           /-----Simon De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort And Ro
|        |        |        |                          |         \-----Maud
|        |        |        |                  /-----Simon IV De MONTFORT L'AUMARY
|        |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Sir Robert De BEAUMONT, Earl Of Leicester
|        |        |        |                 |         \-----Amice BEAUMONT, Countess Of Leicester
|        |        |        |                 |                  \-----Petronilla De GRANTMESNIL
|        |        |        |         /-----Amauri De MONTFORT, Lord Of Montfort
|        |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Matthew I Sire De Montmorency
|        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Bouchard De MONTMORENCY
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Aline
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Alix De MONTMORENCY
|        |        |        |        |                 |         /-----Baldwin IV Count Of Hainault
|        |        |        |        |                  \-----Lauretia Of Hainault
|        |        |        |        |                           \-----Alix De NAMUR
|        |        |         \-----Adele Of Montfort
|        |        |                 |                           /-----Eudes II Duke Of Burgundy
|        |        |                 |                  /-----Hugh III Duke Of Burgundy
|        |        |                 |                 |         \-----Mary Of Blois
|        |        |                 |         /-----Andre Guigues VI Count Of Viennois And Albon
|        |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Guido Count Of Viennois
|        |        |                 |        |         \-----Beatrix Of Albon
|        |        |                 |        |                  \-----Beatrix Of Montferrat
|        |        |                  \-----Beatrix Of Vienne
|        |        |                          |                  /-----Rostaing II De Sabran
|        |        |                          |         /-----Rainou Seigneur De Castellar, Count Of Forcalqu
|        |        |                          |        |         \-----Roscie Of Uzes
|        |        |                           \-----Beatrice De Sabran
|        |        |                                   |         /-----William II Count Of Forcalquier
|        |        |                                    \-----Gersinde Of Forcalquier
|        |        |                                             \-----Adelaida De Bezieres
|         \-----Alix De CLERMONT
|                 |                                             /-----Louis VI The Fat King Of France
|                 |                                    /-----Robert I Count Of Dreux
|                 |                                   |         \-----Adelaide Of Savoy
|                 |                           /-----Robert II Count Of Dreux
|                 |                          |        |         /-----Gui Seigneur De Baudmont And Braine
|                 |                          |         \-----Agnes De Baudemont
|                 |                          |                  \-----Adelaide
|                 |                  /-----Robert III Count Of Dreux
|                 |                 |        |                  /-----Enguerrand II Sire De COUCY
|                 |                 |        |         /-----Ralph I Sire De COUCY
|                 |                 |        |        |         \-----Agnes De BAUGENCI
|                 |                 |         \-----Yolande De COUCY
|                 |                 |                 |         /-----Baldwin IV Count Of Hainault
|                 |                 |                  \-----Agnes Of Hainault
|                 |                 |                           \-----Alix De NAMUR
|                 |         /-----Robert I Of Dreux, Lord Of Beu
|                 |        |        |                           /-----Reginald De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley
|                 |        |        |                  /-----Bernard De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley
|                 |        |        |         /-----Thomas De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley
|                 |        |        |        |         \-----Matilda
|                 |        |         \-----Aenor Of St Valery
|                 |        |                 |                  /-----Guy II De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu
|                 |        |                 |         /-----John I De PONTHIEU, Count Of Ponthieu
|                 |        |                 |        |         \-----Ida
|                 |        |                  \-----Adele De PONTHIEU
|                 |        |                           \-----Matilda
|                  \-----Alix Of Dreux
|                          |                                    /-----Hughs IV Vicount Of Chateaudun
|                          |                           /-----Hugh V Vicount Of Chateaudun
|                          |                          |         \-----Marguerite De Saint Calais
|                          |                  /-----Geoffroy V Vicount Of Chateaudun
|                          |                 |        |         /-----Gauzbert De Preuilly, Seigneur De Bouchet
|                          |                 |         \-----Jeanne De Preuilly, Dame De Bouchet
|                          |                 |                  \-----Adelaide De Vendome
|                          |         /-----Geoffrey VI Vicomte De Chateaudun
|                          |        |         \-----Adele Of Nevers
|                           \-----Clemence Of Chateaudun
|                                   |                  /-----Baldwin Of Roches, Seigneur of Chateau-du-Loir
|                                   |         /-----William Of Roches, Seneschall Of Anjou
|                                   |        |         \-----Alix of Chatellerault
|                                    \-----Clemence Of Roches
|                                            |                  /-----Robert Of Sable
|                                            |         /-----Robert Sire Of Sable
|                                            |        |         \-----Hersende De ANTHENAISE
|                                             \-----Marguerite Dame Of Sable
|                                                     |         /-----Geoffroy Sire De Mayenne
|                                                      \-----Clemence Of Mayenne
|                                                               \-----Isabella De BEAUMONT
Alix Of Flanders
|         /-----Gerard De Enghien
 \-----Marie De Enghien
          \-----Marie



Descendants of Alix Of Flanders
1. Alix Of Flanders m. Jean I Count Of Ligny, And St. Pol
m. Jean I Count Of Ligny, And St. Pol father: Valeran II Seigneur of Ligny mother: Gayotte Of Lille

2nd generation

3. Guy Count Of Ligny, And St. Pol m. Mathilde Of Chatillion
m. Mathilde Of Chatillion father: Jean Count Of St. Pol mother: Jeanne De Fiennes
4. Maria Of Luxemburg m. Henry Of Joinville, Count Of Vaudemont
m. Henry Of Joinville, Count Of Vaudemont father: Anseau De JOINVILLE mother: Margareta Of Vaudemont

3rd generation

12. Valeran III Count Of Ligny And St. Pol m1. Maud HOLLAND, Dame De Roeux m2. Bonne Of Bar m3. Agnes De BRIE m4. Marie De LAUSIERE
m. Maud HOLLAND, Dame De Roeux father: Sir Thomas De HOLAND, K.G., Earl Of Kent mother: Joan PLANTAGENET, Fair Maid Of Kent, Countess
m. Bonne Of Bar father: Robert I Duke Of Bar mother: Maria Of France
m. Agnes De BRIE
m. Marie De LAUSIERE
13. Jean II Count Of Brienne And Conversano m. Marguerite De Enghien
m. Marguerite De Enghien father: Louis Of Enghien, Count Of Brienne, Duke Of At mother: Giovanna Of Sanserverino
14. Marguerite Of Joinville m1. Jean Of Burgundy, Seigneur Of Montaigu m2. Pierre Count Of Geneva m3. Friedrich Count Of Vaudemont
m. Jean Of Burgundy, Seigneur Of Montaigu
m. Pierre Count Of Geneva father: Amadeus III Count Of Geneva mother: Mahaut Of Bologne
m. Friedrich Count Of Vaudemont father: John Duke Of Lorraine mother: Sophia Of Wurttemberg

4th generation

15. Joanna Of St. Pol m. Anthony Duke Of Brabant
m. Anthony Duke Of Brabant father: Philip The Bold Duke Of Burgundy mother: Margaret Heiress Of Flanders
22. Peter Of Luxemburg, Count Of St. Pol m. Margaret Of Andria
m. Margaret Of Andria father: Francis De Baux, Duke Of Andria mother: Sveva ORSINI
23. Anton Of Lorraine, Count Of Vaudemont m. Marie Of Harcourt
m. Marie Of Harcourt father: Jean VII Count Of Harcourt mother: Marie Of Alencon

5th generation

25. Philippe Duke Of Brabant m. Barbe FIERENS
m. Barbe FIERENS
34. Jacquetta Of St.Pol m1. John K.G., Duke of Bedford m2. Sir Richard WYDVILLE, K.G., Earl of Rivers
m. John K.G., Duke of Bedford father: Henry IV King Of England mother: Mary De BOHUN
m. Sir Richard WYDVILLE, K.G., Earl of Rivers father: Richard De WYDEVILLE mother: Joan BEDLISGATE
35. Louis Of Luxemburg, Count Of St. Pol m1. Jeanne Of Bar m2. Marie Of Savoy
m. Jeanne Of Bar father: Robert Of Bar, Count Of Soissons mother: Jeanne Of Bethune
m. Marie Of Savoy father: Louis Duke Of Savoy mother: Anna Of Cypres
36. Friedrich Of Lorraine, Count Of Vaudemont m. Jolande Of Anjou
m. Jolande Of Anjou father: Rene Duke Of Anjou mother: Isabel Of Lorraine