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  1. Jeanne Of Bethune Birth: Abt 1397 Death: 1459

Bibliography
  1. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. I.2: Premysliden, Askanier, Herzoge von Lothringen, die Hauser Hessen, Wurttemberg und Zahringen. Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, 1999. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES I.2 #[0-9]*].
  2. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. VI: Familien des Alten Lotharingien I. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES VI #[0-9]*].
  3. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. VII: Familien des Alten Lotharingien II. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1979. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES VII #[0-9]*].
  4. Thompson, Neil D, and Hansen, Charles M, Medieval Heritage: The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England, The Genealogist, 2:157-68, 3:25-44, 3:175-94, 4:144-58, 5:64-72, 5:226-39, 6:100-3, 6:148-65, 7-8:137-43, 9:40-4, 10:73-85, 11:63-72, 11:184-93, 12:83-90, 12:250-6, 13:92-9, 13:252-6, 14:81-4, 14:207-10, 15:99-103, 15:220-4, 16:93-8, 16:227-31, 17:61-4, 17:250-5, 18:123-7, 18:228-31, 19:62-8, 19:251-5, 20:85-8, 20:184-90, 21:71-5, 21:250-4, 22:101-6, 22:186-91, 23:73-9, 23:203-8, 24:110-27, 24:239-54, 25:56-73, 25:214-32, 26:77-101, 26:202-26, 27:189, 28:90, 33:300. NYPL APA 82-1000. Available at https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/genealogist-the/image/. Reprinted, with further corrections, as Thompson, Neil D, and Hansen, Charles M, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage. Saline, Michigan: McNaughton & Gunn, 2012. NYPL ARF 13-5787. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v[0-9]*-[0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
[Ref: ES VII #58, Thompson CharlesII v17-253]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: ES VII #58, ES VII #96, Thompson CharlesII v09-42]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: Thompson CharlesII v09-42]
Sources with Information about marriage to Jeanne De Chatillon
date:
[Ref: ES VII #58]
Sources with Information about marriage to Jeanne De Barbancon
date:
second marriage of Robert [Ref: ES VII #58]
Sources with Information about marriage to Isabelle De Ghistelles
date:
1395, as third marriage of Robert and second of Isabeau [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v09-42]
third marriage of Robert [Ref: ES VII #58],
child:
[Ref: ES VI #28, Thompson CharlesII v09-42]
Research Notes:
Vicount of Meaux [Ref: ES VI #28, ES VII #58, ES VII #96, Thompson CharlesII v09-42]
Sn de Vendueil de Conde-en-Brie de la Ferta et de Rumpst [Ref: ES VII #58]

knight banneret [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v09-42]

1371: Vicomte of Meaux [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v09-42 (with update in book p136)]

1383: governor of Aire [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v09-42 (with update in book p136)]

Royal Lieutenant in Guyenne [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v09-42]

1390: besieged the castle of La Roche-Vendeix held by a company of brigands, forcing its surrender [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v09-42 (with update in book p136)]



Pedigree of Robert VIII De Bethune, Vicount Of Meaux
                                                                /-----Guillaume I Of Bethune
                                                       /-----Robert V Lord Of Bethune
                                                      |         \-----Clemence Of Cambrai
                                              /-----Guillaume II De BETHUNE, Baron Of Rothersthorpe
                                             |        |         /-----Hugh III Count Of St. Pol
                                             |         \-----Adelaide Of St Pol
                                             |                  \-----Marguerite Of Clermont
                                     /-----Robert VII Seigneur De Bethene
                                    |        |         /-----Walter II Of Dendermonde
                                    |         \-----Mathilde Of Dendermonde
                            /-----Guillaume IV De Bethene
                           |        |         /-----Arnoul IV Lord Of Morialme
                           |         \-----Elisabeth Of Morialme
                   /-----Guillaume V De Bethene
                  |         \-----Beatrix Of Hebuterne
          /-----Guillaume VI De Bethene
         |         \-----Jeanne De NESLE
 /-----Jean I De BETHUNE
|        |         /-----Mathieu II De Roys
|         \-----Marie De Roys
|                  \-----Jeanne De Vendeuil
Robert VIII De Bethune, Vicount Of Meaux
|                                                               /-----Arnold Of Gent, Count Of Guines
|                                                      /-----Baldwin II Count Of Guines
|                                                     |         \-----Mahaut De SAINT OMER
|                                             /-----Arnold II Count Of Guines
|                                            |        |         /-----Arnold IV De Marcq, Lord Of Ardres
|                                            |         \-----Christine Of Ardres
|                                            |                  \-----Adelide Of Ardres
|                                    /-----Baldwin III Count Of Guines
|                                   |        |         /-----Walter Chatelain Of Bourbourg
|                                   |         \-----Beatrix De Bourbourg
|                                   |                  \-----Mathilde Of Bethune
|                           /-----Arnold III Count Of Guines
|                          |        |                           /-----Eustace II De FIENNES, Baron Fiennes
|                          |        |                  /-----Ingleman De FIENNES
|                          |        |                 |         \-----Margaret Of Guines
|                          |        |         /-----William De FIENNES
|                          |        |        |        |         /-----Faramus De BOULOGNE
|                          |        |        |         \-----Sybilla De BOULOGNE
|                          |        |        |                  \-----Matilda
|                          |         \-----Mahaut Fiennes
|                          |                 |                  /-----Alberic I De DAMMARTIN
|                          |                 |         /-----Alberic II De DAMMARTIN, Count Of Dammartin
|                          |                 |        |         \-----(Unk)
|                          |                  \-----Agnes De DAMMARTIN
|                          |                          |         /-----Renaud Count Of Clermont
|                          |                           \-----Maud Of Clermont
|                          |                                    \-----Clemence Of Bar-Le-Duc
|                  /-----Enguerrand V Lord Guines, Lord Of Coucy
|                 |        |                                    /-----Thomas De COUCY, Count Of Anvers
|                 |        |                           /-----Enguerrand II Sire De COUCY
|                 |        |                          |         \-----Melisende De CRECY En LAONNOIS
|                 |        |                  /-----Ralph I Sire De COUCY
|                 |        |                 |        |         /-----Ralph Seigneur De BAUGENCI
|                 |        |                 |         \-----Agnes De BAUGENCI
|                 |        |                 |                  \-----Matilda Of Vermandois
|                 |        |         /-----Enguerrand III Lord Of Coucy
|                 |        |        |        |                  /-----Louis VI The Fat King Of France
|                 |        |        |        |         /-----Robert I Count Of Dreux
|                 |        |        |        |        |         \-----Adelaide Of Savoy
|                 |        |        |         \-----Adelaide Of Dreux
|                 |        |        |                 |         /-----Gui Seigneur De Baudmont And Braine
|                 |        |        |                  \-----Agnes De Baudemont
|                 |        |        |                           \-----Adelaide
|                 |         \-----Alix Of Coucy
|                 |                 |                           /-----Helie Lord Of Ferte-Gaucher
|                 |                 |                  /-----Andre Lord Of Ferte-Gaucher
|                 |                 |                 |         \-----Adelaide Of Marsuil
|                 |                 |         /-----John Seigneur De Montmirel
|                 |                 |        |        |         /-----Simon De Oizy, Chatelain De Cambrai
|                 |                 |        |         \-----Hildearde Of Oisy
|                 |                 |        |                  \-----Ade Of Ferte-Ancoul
|                 |                  \-----Mary Of Montmirail
|                 |                          |                  /-----Gui I Seigneur De Dampierre, Vicomte Of Troyes
|                 |                          |         /-----William Seigneur De Dampierre, Constable Of Cham
|                 |                          |        |         \-----Helvide Of Baudemont
|                 |                           \-----Helvide Of Dampierre
|                 |                                   |         /-----Dreux IV Seigneur De Morichy
|                 |                                    \-----Ermengarde
|                 |                                             \-----Basilie
|         /-----Enguerrand De Coucy, Vicount Of Meaux
|        |        |                                             /-----William De LINDSAY
|        |        |                                    /-----Walter De LINDSAY
|        |        |                           /-----William De LINDSAY
|        |        |                  /-----Walter De LINDSAY
|        |        |                 |        |                  /-----Roger FITZREINFRID
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----Gilbert FITZROGER FITZREINFRID, Lord Of Kendal
|        |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Alice
|        |        |                 |         \-----Alice De LANCASTER, Baroness Of Kendal
|        |        |                 |                 |         /-----William II De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal
|        |        |                 |                  \-----Helwise De LANCASTER, Baroness Of Kendal
|        |        |                 |                           \-----Helwise De STUTEVILLE
|        |        |         /-----William De LINDSAY
|        |        |        |         \-----Christian
|        |         \-----Christine De LINDSAY
|        |                 |                                    /-----Bernard II De BALLIOL, Baron Of Bywell
|        |                 |                           /-----Eustace De BALLIOL, Baron Of Bywell
|        |                 |                          |         \-----Agnes De PICQUIGNY
|        |                 |                  /-----Hugh De BALIOL, Baron Of Bywell
|        |                 |                 |         \-----Petronell
|        |                 |         /-----John De BALLIOL, King Of Scotland
|        |                 |        |        |                  /-----Enguerrand De FONTAINES
|        |                 |        |        |         /-----Aleaume De FONTAINES, Lord Of Fontaines
|        |                 |        |         \-----Cicely De FONTAINES
|        |                 |        |                 |         /-----Reginald De St VALERY, Baron Of Beckley
|        |                 |        |                  \-----Laure De St VALERY
|        |                  \-----Ada De BALLIOL
|        |                          |                           /-----Uchtred Of Galloway
|        |                          |                  /-----Roland Lord Of Galloway, Constable Of Scotland
|        |                          |                 |         \-----Gunnild Of Dunbar
|        |                          |         /-----Alan Lord Of Galloway, Constable Of Scotland
|        |                          |        |        |         /-----Richard De MORVILLE, Constable Of Scotland
|        |                          |        |         \-----Elena De MORVILLE
|        |                          |        |                  \-----Avice De LANCASTER
|        |                           \-----Dervorguilla Of Galloway
|        |                                   |                  /-----Henry Of Huntingdon, Earl Of Huntingdon
|        |                                   |         /-----David Earl Of Huntingdon
|        |                                   |        |         \-----Ada De WARENNE
|        |                                    \-----Margaret Of Huntingdon
|        |                                            |         /-----Hugh Of Kevelioc, Earl Of Chester
|        |                                             \-----Maud Of Chester
|        |                                                      \-----Bertrade De MONTFORT
 \-----Jeanne De Coucy
         |                                                      /-----Friedrich I Count Of Vianden
         |                                             /-----Friedrich II Count Of Salm And Vianden
         |                                    /-----Friedrich III Count Of Viaden
         |                                   |        |         /-----Henry I Count Of Salm
         |                                   |         \-----Elisabeth Of Salm
         |                                   |                  \-----Clementia Of Dagsburg
         |                           /-----Heinrich I Count Of Viaden, Markgraf Of Namur
         |                          |         \-----Mechtild Of Neuerburg
         |                  /-----Philip I Count Of Viaden
         |                 |        |                           /-----Louis VI The Fat King Of France
         |                 |        |                  /-----Peter Of France, Lord Of Courteney
         |                 |        |                 |         \-----Adelaide Of Savoy
         |                 |        |         /-----Peter De COURTENAY, Emperor Of Constantinople
         |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Renaud De Courtenay, Seigneur De Courtenay
         |                 |        |        |         \-----Elizabeth De Courtenay
         |                 |        |        |                  \-----Hedwig Du DONJON
         |                 |         \-----Margaret Countess Of Namur
         |                 |                 |                  /-----Baldwin IV Count Of Hainault
         |                 |                 |         /-----Baldwin V Count Of Hainaut And Namur
         |                 |                 |        |         \-----Alix De NAMUR
         |                 |                  \-----Iolande Of Hainault, Countess Of Namur
         |                 |                          |         /-----Thierry Of Lorraine, Count Of Flanders
         |                 |                           \-----Margarite Of Lorraine, Heiress Of Flanders
         |                 |                                    \-----Sybil Of Anjou
         |         /-----Philip Of Vianden
         |        |        |                                    /-----Godfrey II Count Of Louvain
         |        |        |                           /-----Godfrey III Count Of Louvain
         |        |        |                          |         \-----Luitgarde Of Sultzbach
         |        |        |                  /-----William Lord Of Perweys
         |        |        |                 |        |         /-----Louis Count Of Loos And Rienack
         |        |        |                 |         \-----Imaine Of Loos
         |        |        |                 |                  \-----Agnes Of Metz
         |        |        |         /-----Gottfried Lord Of Perweys
         |        |        |        |        |         /-----Engelram Of Orbais
         |        |        |        |         \-----Marie Of Orbais
         |        |         \-----Maria Of Perwez
         |        |                 |                           /-----Gerhard II Advocate Of Grimberghe
         |        |                 |                  /-----Gerhard III Lord Of Grimberghe
         |        |                 |                 |         \-----Mathilde Of Ninove
         |        |                 |         /-----Gerhard IV Of Grimberghen
         |        |                 |        |         \-----Alix Of Buischeure
         |        |                  \-----Alix Of Grimberghen
          \-----Marie Of Vianden
                   \-----Marie De Cernay



Descendants of Robert VIII De Bethune, Vicount Of Meaux
1. Robert VIII De Bethune, Vicount Of Meaux m1. Jeanne De Chatillon m2. Jeanne De Barbancon m3. Isabelle De Ghistelles
m. Jeanne De Chatillon father: Gaucher III Count Of Porcean mother: Jeanne De Conflans
m. Jeanne De Barbancon father: Jean De Barbancon mother: Yolande De Lens
m. Isabelle De Ghistelles father: Johann VI De Ghistelles mother: Marguerite De Reighersvliet

2nd generation

2. Jeanne Of Bethune m1. Robert Of Bar, Count Of Soissons m2. Jean III Of Luxemburg, Count Of Ligny And Guise
m. Robert Of Bar, Count Of Soissons father: Henri De BAR mother: Marie De COUCY
m. Jean III Of Luxemburg, Count Of Ligny And Guise father: Jean II Count Of Brienne And Conversano mother: Marguerite De Enghien

3rd generation

3. Jeanne Of Bar m. Louis Of Luxemburg, Count Of St. Pol
m. Louis Of Luxemburg, Count Of St. Pol father: Peter Of Luxemburg, Count Of St. Pol mother: Margaret Of Andria

4th generation

4. Pierre II Of Luxemburg, Count Of Saint-Pol m. Marguerite Of Savoy
m. Marguerite Of Savoy father: Louis Duke Of Savoy mother: Anna Of Cypres

5th generation

5. Marie De Luxemburg m1. Jakob Of Savoy, Count Of Romont m2. Francois Of Bourbon, Count Of Vendome
m. Jakob Of Savoy, Count Of Romont father: Louis Duke Of Savoy mother: Anna Of Cypres
m. Francois Of Bourbon, Count Of Vendome father: Jean II Of Bourbon, Count of Vendome mother: Isabelle De Beauvau