Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 01-20-2025.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.


Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom available to be downloaded.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.


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Bibliography
  1. Brandenburg, Erich, Die Nachkommen Karls des Grossen, Faksimile-Nachdruck von 1935 (Facsimile reproduction of 1935), mit Korrekturen und Erganzungen versehen von (with corrections and additions provided by) Manfred Dreiss und Lupold v. Lehsten. Neustadt an der Aisch:Verlag Degener, 1995. NYPL ATH (Charlemagne) 96-4768. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p[0-9]*].
  2. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. I: Die Stammesherzoge, Die Weltlichenkurforsten, Die Kaiserlichen, Koniglichen und Grossherzoglichen Familien. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1980. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES I #[0-9]*].
  3. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. I.1: Die frankischen Konige und die Konige und Kaiser, Stammesherzoge, Kurfursten, Markgrafen und Herzoge des Heiligen Romischen Reiches Deutscher Nation. Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, 1998. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES I.1 #[0-9]*].
  4. Jackman, Donald C, Criticism and Critique: Sidelights on the Konradiner. Oxford: Unit for Prosopographical Research, 1997. NYPL ATH (Konradiner) 00-1166. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Jackman Konradiner [p#][0-9]*].
  5. Moriarty, G Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS Film#0441438. NYPL ARF-86-2555. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007905814?cat=66443. Also available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/66443. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p[0-9]*].
  6. Settipani, Christian, and J-P Poly, Les Conradiens: un debat toujours ouvert, Francia, vol 23 no 1 (1996). pp135-66. NYPL JFL 75-104 v23pt1 (1996). OFFSITE--Request in advance, also available via RECAP electronic delivery. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Settipani Conradiens p[0-9]*].
  7. Baldwin, Stewart, Heribert of Kinziggau, part 1. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 4/8/2002. Subject: Heribert of Kinziggau, part 1/2a/2b/2c. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/lZhJxhPsQXE/m/4vGiTkBHuJYJ, https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/C4z8UCbtqXg/m/zJXi4bG-sqgJ, https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/ic79uOlZvS4/m/zdgMjSCT0foJ, and https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/VS_2MCsrAuc/m/lUgXdTMqX4wJ. Author address: sbaldw at mindspring dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Stewart Baldwin SGM 4/8/2002-204050].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
abt 920 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p6],
parents:
[Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p6, ES I #11, Settipani Conradiens p144],
father:
dotted line to Odo Count Wetterau [Ref: Settipani Conradiens p149-Hlawitschka],
brother:
Gebhard (c920-938) [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p6]
Heribert Count of Kinzigau, Conrad Duke of Swabia [Ref: Settipani Conradiens p149]
Konrad Duke of Swabia, Heribert Count [Ref: Stewart Baldwin SGM 4/8/2002-204050],
sister:
Judith wife of Henry Count of Stade [Ref: Settipani Conradiens p139, Stewart Baldwin SGM 4/8/2002-204050]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
parents:
Konrad Count in the Ortenau (#164334) & (Judith) (#164335) [Ref: ES I.1 #8]
Konrad Count in the Ortenau (#164334) & Judith (#164335) [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p123, Brandenburg 1995 p92],
father:
Conrad I Duke of Alsace (#164334) [Ref: Settipani Conradiens p149-Jackman]
Konrad Count in the Ortenau (#164334) [Ref: Jackman Konradiner #1],
brother:
Conrad Count in Rheingau [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p94]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: ES I.1 #8]
982 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p92, Jackman Konradiner #1, Stewart Baldwin SGM 4/8/2002-204050],
place:
[Ref: ES I.1 #8, Moriarty Plantagenet p94, Stewart Baldwin SGM 4/8/2002-204050]
Sources with Inaccurate death Information
date:
15 Jul 982 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p6, ES I #11, Moriarty Plantagenet p94]
Research Notes:
Duke of Alsace [Ref: Jackman Konradiner #1, Settipani Conradiens p149]
Count in the Wetterau [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p6, Moriarty Plantagenet p94]

slain in Calabria in the Frank-Saracen wars [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p94]

The main question is: Who were the parents of the siblings Konrad, Heribert, Udo, Judith? This is apparently not directly documented, and Jackman differs from what seemed to be the previous consensus....
One objection [to solution proposed by Hlawitschka, Brandenburg, Werner]
that has been put forward by some, including Jackman, is chronological. Heribert and his brother Konrad both died in 997, 48 years after the death of the supposed father Udo. I don't see this is as a serious objection. It is known that Udo and his brother Hermann were still boys when their father Gebhard died in the year 910 [... Gebeardus comes interiit, relictus duobus filiis suis pueris, Udone et Herimanno, ..., Regino's Continuator, MGH SS 1, 614], so even if his sons were born as early as the 920's (and they may well have been born later), they would still only be in their seventies in 997. Thus, I find it hard to put much weight in Jackman's overstatement about "... three generations covering an enormous duration of over one hundred and twenty years." [Jackman, p. 170] Although somewhat more than average, it is insufficient to cause serious concern.
More serious is another objection put forward by Jackman. In 950, the year after reporting the death of count Udo, Regino's Continuator reported that "... Udo, filius Udonis comitis ..." succeeded as Bishop of Strasburg [MGH SS 1, 620], and he is apparently the same as the Uodo, Bishop of Strasburg whose death was reported in the same source in 965 [MGH SS 1, 627]. From the context, the count Udo who was father of Bishop Udo would seem to be the man of the name whose death was recorded in the previous year in the same source. This Bishop Udo could then not be the same person as the Udo, brother of Heribert, who died in 982 [Thietmar, as above]. Thus, since it is unlikely that Bishop Udo and Duke Udo were brothers, supporters of count Udo as the father of Heribert would have to adequately explain this problem, which has apparently not been done. [Ref: Stewart Baldwin SGM 4/8/2002-204050]

----- Europaische Stammtafeln I.1 #8 ("Die Konradiner, 911-918 Konig von Ostfranken"): Udo d. in battle Kalabrien 14.VII 982 [Ref: ES I.1 #8]



Pedigree of Udo Duke Of Alsace
                                                                /-----Agilolf
                                                       /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
                                              /-----Hadrian Lord In The Worms
                                             |        |         /-----Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
                                             |         \-----Emma
                                             |                  \-----Hersuinde
                                     /-----Eudes Count Of Orleans
                                    |        |                  /-----Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
                                    |        |         /-----Adalelmus
                                    |        |        |         \-----Auda
                                    |         \-----Waldast
                            /-----Gebhard Count In The Nieder-Lahngau
                           |        |                  /-----Girard Count Of Paris
                           |        |         /-----Leuthard Count Of Fezenac
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Carloman Mayor Of The Palace
                           |        |        |         \-----Rotrude
                           |         \-----Engeltrude
                           |                  \-----Grimihild
                   /-----Eudes Count In Lahngau
                  |        |         /-----Hunroch Count of Ternois
                  |         \-----(Unk Dau) Of Friuli
                  |                 |                  /-----Girard Count Of Paris
                  |                 |         /-----Begue Count Of Paris
                  |                 |        |        |         /-----Carloman Mayor Of The Palace
                  |                 |        |         \-----Rotrude
                  |                  \-----Engeltron Of Paris
                  |                          |                  /-----Charlemagne King Of France
                  |                          |         /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
                  |                          |        |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
                  |                           \-----Aupals
          /-----Gebhard Duke Of Lorraine
         |        |                                    /-----Guelph Duke Of Fruili, Count Of Bavaria
         |        |                           /-----Ruthardus Duke Of Bavaria
         |        |                  /-----Guelph Count Of Andech And Bavaria
         |        |         /-----Conrad I Of Burgandy, Count Of Auxerra
         |        |        |        |         /-----(Unk) Saxon
         |        |        |         \-----Edith (Heilwig) Of Saxony, Abbess Of Chelles
         |         \-----Judith
         |                 |                                    /-----Adelbert Duke Of Alsace
         |                 |                           /-----Luitfriede I Duke Of Alsace
         |                 |                          |         \-----Gerlinde
         |                 |                  /-----Luitfriede II Count Of Alsace
         |                 |         /-----Hugh le Mefiant Count Of Tours
         |                 |        |         \-----Hiltrude
         |                  \-----Aelis Of Tours And Alsace
         |                           \-----Ava
 /-----Udo Count In The Wetterau
|         \-----Ita
Udo Duke Of Alsace
|                                                               /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
|                                                      /-----Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
|                                                     |         \-----Chrotrudis
|                                             /-----Charlemagne King Of France
|                                            |        |         /-----Caribert Count Of Laon
|                                            |         \-----Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
|                                            |                  \-----Gisele
|                                    /-----Karlman (Pepin) King Of Italy And Bavaria
|                                   |        |                  /-----Agilolf
|                                   |        |         /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
|                                   |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
|                                   |                 |         /-----Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
|                                   |                  \-----Emma
|                                   |                           \-----Hersuinde
|                           /-----Bernard King Of Italy
|                          |        |                           /-----Pepin Of Heristal, Mayor Of Palace
|                          |        |                  /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
|                          |        |                 |         \-----Aupais
|                          |        |         /-----Bernard Duke, Abbot Of Saint Quentin
|                          |        |        |        |         /-----Gui Abbot Of Fontenelle
|                          |        |        |         \-----Chrothais
|                          |        |        |                  \-----Chrolanda
|                          |         \-----Therres
|                          |                 |                  /-----(Unk Son) Of Bavaria
|                          |                 |         /-----Caribert Count Of Laon
|                          |                 |        |         \-----Bertrade De Preum
|                          |                  \-----(Unk Dau) Of Laon
|                          |                           \-----Gisele
|                  /-----Pepin Count Of Senlis, Peronne, & St. Quentin
|                 |        |                                    /-----Barnier
|                 |        |                           /-----Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
|                 |        |                          |         \-----Rolanda
|                 |        |                  /-----Saint William Count Of Auton, Marquis Of Septimania
|                 |        |                 |        |         /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
|                 |        |                 |         \-----Auda
|                 |        |                 |                  \-----Chrotrudis
|                 |        |         /-----Caribert
|                 |        |        |         \-----Kunigunde
|                 |         \-----Cunigunde
|         /-----Herbert I Count Of Vermandois
|        |        |                                             /-----Childebrand I Duke Of Provence
|        |        |                                    /-----Niebelung I Historian, Lord Of Perrency
|        |        |                           /-----Niebelung II Count Of Hesbaye
|        |        |                  /-----Niebelung III Count Of Burgundy
|        |        |                 |        |                  /-----Barnier
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----Thiery (Not Makhir) Count Of Autun
|        |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Rolanda
|        |        |                 |         \-----Bertha
|        |        |                 |                 |         /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
|        |        |                 |                  \-----Auda
|        |        |                 |                           \-----Chrotrudis
|        |        |         /-----Theoderic Count Of Vermandois
|        |         \-----(Unk Dau) Of Vermandois
 \-----Cunegundis Of Vermandois
         |         /-----Guerra I Count Of Morvois
          \-----Beatrice Of Morvois
                   \-----Eve Of Roussillon



Descendants of Udo Duke Of Alsace
1. Udo Duke Of Alsace