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  1. Walter I Count Of Amiens, Valois, And The Vexin Birth: Abt 920 Death: Abt 1000
  2. Raoul Count Of Valois Birth: Abt 920 Death: 943

Bibliography
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  8. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
abt 890 [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p249],
parents:
[Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p244, ES II #188Acorr, HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008, Moriarty Plantagenet p228],
mother:
[Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p113, Settipani Chateaudun p249]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
parents:
doubful if Hucbold Count of Osrevant & Helwise, mother was Helwich who m2 Waleran Count of Laon [Ref: Weis AR7 #250],
father:
Roger Count of Laon (#35778) [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p113]
dotted line to Walthar Count of Leon (#22593) [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p249],
note:
Flodoard (for year 926) says Roger was stepfather [Ref: HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p113, DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p244, ES II #188Acorr, ES III.4 #657, HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008, Moriarty Plantagenet p135, Moriarty Plantagenet p228, Settipani Chateaudun p249]
936 [Ref: Weis AR7 #250]
Sources with Information about marriage to Hildegarde
names:
[Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p228]
Raoul & dau or sister of Ermenfred Count of Amiens [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p113]
Raoul & heiress of Ermenfried count of Amiens [Ref: HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008],
child:
[Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p244, Moriarty Plantagenet p135, Moriarty Plantagenet p229, Weis AR7 #250]
Research Notes:
Count of Ostrevant [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p244, HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008]
Count of Ostrevant and Amiens and of Valois and the Vexin [Ref: Weis AR7 #250]
Count of Valois [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p249]
probably also count of Amiens [Ref: HenryII heilw001 9/20/2008]

puis d'Amiens, Valois, Vexin [Ref: DeSaintPhalle Gatinais p244]

parentage in doubt. His mother was a Heiliwich who m(2) Waleran, Count of Laon. [Ref: Weis AR7 #250]

915-926: Count of Valois [Ref: Settipani Chateaudun p249]

Count in Ostrevant [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p113]
Count of Amiens [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p113]



Pedigree of Raol De Gouy, Count Of Ostrevant, Amiens, Val
 /-----Hucbold Count Of Osrevant
Raol De Gouy, Count Of Ostrevant, Amiens, Val
|                  /-----Hunroch Count of Ternois
|         /-----Eberhard Margrave Of Friuli
|        |        |                  /-----Girard Count Of Paris
|        |        |         /-----Begue Count Of Paris
|        |        |        |        |                           /-----Pepin Of Heristal, Mayor Of Palace
|        |        |        |        |                  /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
|        |        |        |        |                 |         \-----Aupais
|        |        |        |        |         /-----Carloman Mayor Of The Palace
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Lambertus II Of Hesbaye
|        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Chrotrudis
|        |        |        |         \-----Rotrude
|        |         \-----Engeltron Of Paris
|        |                 |                                    /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
|        |                 |                           /-----Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
|        |                 |                          |         \-----Chrotrudis
|        |                 |                  /-----Charlemagne King Of France
|        |                 |                 |        |         /-----Caribert Count Of Laon
|        |                 |                 |         \-----Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
|        |                 |                 |                  \-----Gisele
|        |                 |         /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
|        |                 |        |        |                  /-----Agilolf
|        |                 |        |        |         /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
|        |                 |        |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
|        |                 |        |                 |         /-----Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
|        |                 |        |                  \-----Emma
|        |                 |        |                           \-----Hersuinde
|        |                  \-----Aupals
 \-----Helwise Of Friuli
         |                                                      /-----Duke Ansgise Mayor Of The Palace To Siegbert
         |                                             /-----Pepin Of Heristal, Mayor Of Palace
         |                                            |         \-----Saint Begga Of Landen
         |                                    /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
         |                                   |        |         /-----Childebrand
         |                                   |         \-----Aupais
         |                           /-----Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
         |                          |        |                  /-----(Unk) Noble Of Hesbaye
         |                          |        |         /-----Lambertus II Of Hesbaye
         |                          |         \-----Chrotrudis
         |                  /-----Charlemagne King Of France
         |                 |        |                           /-----Chariveus Count Of Laon
         |                 |        |                  /-----(Unk Son) Of Bavaria
         |                 |        |                 |         \-----Irmina
         |                 |        |         /-----Caribert Count Of Laon
         |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Theoderic III King Of Franks, King Of Burgundy
         |                 |        |        |         \-----Bertrade De Preum
         |                 |        |        |                  \-----Dode
         |                 |         \-----Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
         |                 |                  \-----Gisele
         |         /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
         |        |        |                  /-----Agilolf
         |        |        |         /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
         |        |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
         |        |                 |                           /-----Godefrey Duke Of Alamannia
         |        |                 |                  /-----Houching Duke Of Alamannia
         |        |                 |                 |         \-----(Unk Dau) Of Bavaria
         |        |                 |         /-----Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
         |        |                  \-----Emma
         |        |                           \-----Hersuinde
          \-----Gisele
                  |                           /-----Guelph Duke Of Fruili, Count Of Bavaria
                  |                  /-----Ruthardus Duke Of Bavaria
                  |         /-----Guelph Count Of Andech And Bavaria
                   \-----Judith Of Bavaria
                           |         /-----(Unk) Saxon
                            \-----Edith (Heilwig) Of Saxony, Abbess Of Chelles



Descendants of Raol De Gouy, Count Of Ostrevant, Amiens, Val
1. Raol De Gouy, Count Of Ostrevant, Amiens, Val m. Hildegarde
m. Hildegarde father: Ermenfred Count Of Amiens

2nd generation

2. Walter I Count Of Amiens, Valois, And The Vexin m1. Eve m2. Adele Of Anjou m3. Beatrix Of Macon
m. Eve
m. Adele Of Anjou father: Fulk II The Good Count Of Anjou mother: Gerberga Of Nevers
m. Beatrix Of Macon father: Aubri Count Of Macon mother: (Unk)

3rd generation

4. Walter II Count Of Amiens, Valois, And The Vexin m. Adele
m. Adele
8. Geoffrey III Count Of The Gatinais m. Beatrix Of Macon
m. Beatrix Of Macon father: Aubri Count Of Macon mother: (Unk)

4th generation

10. Dreux Count Of Amiens And The Vexin m. Godgifu
m. Godgifu father: Ethelred II The Redeless King Of England mother: Emma
11. Raoul II Seigneur Of Crepy And Valois m. Adelaide Of Bretemil
m. Adelaide Of Bretemil father: Hildouin Count Of Bretemil mother: Emeline
12. Oda Of Valois m. Hugo I Count Of Meulen
m. Hugo I Count Of Meulen father: Galeran II Count Of Meulen

5th generation

17. Ralph De SUDELEY, Earl Of Hereford m. Getha
m. Getha
18. Raoul III The Great Count Of Valois And Vexin m1. Adela m2. Haquenez m3. Anne Of Kiev
m. Adela father: Nocher III Count Of Bar-Sur-Aube
m. Haquenez
m. Anne Of Kiev father: Jaroslav I Grand Prince Of Kiev mother: Ingegard
20. Waleran Count Of Meulan m1. Ode m2. Adelais
m. Ode
m. Adelais