Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Olaf III SKOTKONUNG, King Of Sweden Birth: Abt 960
Death: 1022
Bibliography
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Berg, Anders, Adam of Bremen on mother of Olaf. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/2/1996. Subject: Erik the Victorious' wives. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/2jcao-2Cluw/m/144X4JzNdiEJ. Author address: anders dot berg at PI dot SE. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Anders Berg SGM 6/2/1996].
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Berg, Anders, Thietmar of Merseburg. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/3/1996. Subject: Erik the Victorious' wives. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/2jcao-2Cluw/m/144X4JzNdiEJ. Author address: anders dot berg at PI dot SE. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Anders Berg SGM 6/3/1996].
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DeVajay, Szabolcs, Agatha, Mother of Saint Margaret Queen of Scotland, Duquesne Review, vol 7 no 2, Spring 1962, p71-87. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: DeVajay Agatha p[789][0-9]*].
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Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. II: Die Ausserdeutschen Staaten Die Regierenden Hauser der Ubrigen Staaten Europas. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1984. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES II #[0-9]*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- father:
- [Ref: DeVajay Agatha p81, ES II #114, Paget HRHCharles p7, Weis AR7
#241]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- date:
- second marriage of both [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p7],
- names:
- Sven Forkbeard (#15251) & Sigrid [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p7],
- child:
- Estrid (#22224) wife of Richard II the Good [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p7]
Sources with Information about marriage to Erik SEGERSALL, King Of Sweden
- date:
- before 985 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p54]
- first marriage of Erik [Ref: ES II #114]
- first marriage of Sigrid [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p7],
- child:
- [Ref: DeVajay Agatha p81, ES II #114, Moriarty Plantagenet p53, Weis
AR7 #241]
Research Notes:
The progression would seem to be as follows (significant new details or
alterations in the testimony are hightlighted with asterisks):
Thietmar: Boleslav, son of Mieszko, gives Erik of Sweden his sister, a
daughter of Mieszko, in marriage. After Erik's death, this Polish princess
becomes the wife of Svein of Denmark, and the mother of Svein's sons Harald
and Knut, who bring her back to Denmark from Poland after their father's death
in 1014.
Adam: Boleslav gives Erik of Sweden his sister **or daughter** in marriage.
**Boleslav's sister becomes the mother of Erik's son and heir Olaf.** After
Erik's death his widow marries Svein of Denmark, and their sons are Harald and
Knut.
Snorri: Erik of Sweden marries **Sigrid, daughter of Skoglar-Tosti,** and
has a son and heir named Olaf. Erik dies. Svein marries Gunnhild, a
**daughter** of Burizlaf, King of Vindland. **Gunnhild dies of a sickness.**
Svein then marries Erik's widow **Sigrid**, so that Olaf of Sweden is the
half-brother of Svein's son Knut. [Ref: Jared Olar SGM 6/6/1996]
Thietmar of Merseburg died in 1019. This is really a contemporary source [Ref:
Anders Berg SGM 6/3/1996]
Adam's account that the sister of Boleslaw was the mother of Olaf is discarded
by most historians today. It is chronologically impossible. Olaf Sko:tkonung
must have been at least 15 years old when his father Erik died in ~995, and
Erik married the polish princess no more than a couple of years prior to his
death. We can say this because Boleslaw Chobry became king in 992, and it was
he who gave his sister to Erik (see Adam's skolium 24).
The obvious conclusion is that Olaf was born in an earlier marriage between
Erik and a woman not known/mentioned in the contemporary or near-contemporary
sources (that is, Thietmar/Adam). [Ref: Anders Berg SGM 6/2/1996]
I don't think that comparing him [Adam of Bremen] with the sagas ... is
entirely fair. There are several reasons why Adam of Bremen should be regarded
as a much more reliable source for early Scandinavian history than the sagas.
First, Adam wrote at an earlier time than the saga authors, and therefore was
closer in time to the relevant events. Second, Adam got some of his
information on early Scandinavian history directly from king Svend II of
Denmark, and there is no indication that any of the saga authors got their
data from an early source of the same caliber for Danish or Swedish history,
and it is Swedish history that is relevant here. (You could make an excellent
case that the saga authors were better informed than Adam about Norwegian (and
Icelandic) history, but Adam certainly gets the edge with regard to Sweden and
Denmark.) Third, Adam of Bremen's work is a work of history, whereas the sagas
contain a layer of literature superimposed on the historical material which
dilutes their value as a historical source. Finally, if you compare the
statements of both Adam of Bremen and the sagas regarding early Scandinavian
history with that part of the history which can be verified with good
contemporary records, Adam of Bremen, even with his errors, still comes
through this test much better than the sagas do. [Ref: Stewart Baldwin SGM
5/8/1996]
We can alla gree that both the sagas and Adam have confused things. Most
historians favor the following confusion: Sigrid existed, but was married only
to Erik, and was the mother of Olaf [Ref: Anders Berg SGM 6/2/1996]
Apparently the Icelandic sagamen tried to reconcile the tradition found in
Adam of Bremen--that Erik's widow was the mother both of Olaf Skotkonung *and*
of Knut of Denmark--with another tradition that Olaf Skotkonung's mother was
Sigrid Storrade. Thus, Svein Tjuguskegg's Polish wife, who in fact was widow
of Erik the Victorious as well as mother of Svein's son Knut, had to be
"disposed of" by having her conveniently take sick and die, thereby enabling
Svein to marry Sigrid, mother of Olaf.
It is clear that the role of Sigrid in the stories of HEIMSKRINGLA is that
of an explanation for the Battle of Svoldur. Adam of Bremen does not assign
any role to Svein's wife in the outbreak of this war--and the narrative of
HEIMSKRINGLA concerning why Denmark and Sweden went to war with Olaf
Tryggvasson would make perfect sense whether or not Sigrid the Haughty appears
in the story. Adam implies that the "haughty" woman who instigated hostilities
was Svein's sister Thyri, not Svein's wife. [Ref: Jared Olar SGM 6/4/1996]
Pedigree of Sigrid STORRADA
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Skoglar TOSTE, Viking
Sigrid STORRADA
Descendants of Sigrid STORRADA
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