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• Name: Julian De CORNHILL
• Sex: F
• Death: After 1239 ^d


Parents:

• Father:
  
• William De CORNHILL

Family:
Marriage:

• Sir Robert De CHAUCOMBE .^m1
  
• Sir Robert De CHAUCOMBE Death: Abt 1238

Children:

1. Milicent CHAUCOMBE
2. Amabil De CHAUCOMBE Death: Abt 1282

Bibliography

Sources for birth and parent Information

father:

[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p675]

Sources for death Information

date:

living 1239 [Ref: Farnham Pedigrees p24]

Sources with Information about marriage to Sir Robert De CHAUCOMBE

child:

[Ref: CP II p6, Farnham Pedigrees p24, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p675, Watney WALLOP #891, Weis AR7 #126, Weis AR7 #81]

Research Notes:
As to the identity of Juliana, it's possible she was a de Welle.
On 30 September 1231 a fine was made between Robert de Chacombe, and Ralph Basset of Sapcote and his wife Millicent, daughter of Robert. The agreement deals with the marriage portions of Millicent (2 carucates in Strubby, Lincs, or 15 librates from Robert's manor of Chacombe, Northants., in exchange) and her sister Mabel (Great Dalby, Leics). Details are given for the division between Mabel and Millicent of Robert's lands at his death, i.e. the manors of Chacombe and half the manor of Aspley (Aspley Heath, Warks.) to go to Mabel; and the 2 carucates in Strubby and the manor of Great Dalby to go to Millicent.
"Hec est finalis concordia facta in curia domini regis in crastino sancti Michaelis apud Notingh' anno regni regis Henrici filii regis Johannis quintodecimo coram Stephano de Segrave Roberto de Lexinton' Willelmo de Insula et magistro Roberto de Scherdelawe justic' et aliis domini Regis fidelibus tunc ibi presentibus inter Radulfum Basset et Milisantam uxorem eius querentes et Robertum de Chaucumbe inpedientem de duabus carucatis terre cum pertinentiis in Strubby unde placitum warantie carte summonitum fuit inter eos in eadem curia- scilicet quod predictus Robertus recongnovit totam predictam terram cum pertinentiis esse jus ipsorum Radulfi et Milisante et illam warantizavit in eadem curia ut illam quam habent ex dono suo in maritagio ipsius Milisante habend et tenend eisdem Radulfo et Milisante et heredibus ipsius Milisante de predicto Roberto tota vita ipsius Roberti in liberum mari[t]agium nisi idem Robertus prius alium heredem habuerit quam Amabilem uxorem Gileberti de Segrave et predictam Milisantam Et si alium heredem habuerit quam predictas Amabilem et Milisantam tunc idem Robertus dabit eisdem Radulfo et Milisante quindecim libratas [t]er[re] de terra sua de Chaucumbe in escambium predictarum duarum carucatarum terre habend et tenend eisdem Radulfo et Milisante et heredibus ipsius Milisante de predicto Roberto et heredibus suis in liberum maritagium in perpetuum Et tunc predicte duo carucate terre cum pertinentiis in Strubby revertentur ad ipsum Robertum et heredes suos quiete de predicto Radulfo et Milisanta et heredibus ipsius Milisante im perpetuum Manerium vero de Dauby integer remanebit predictis Gilberto et Amabili et [heredi]bus ipsius Amabilis ut liberum maritagium ipsius Amabilis tenend de predicto Roberto et heredibus suis in perpetuum Si vero idem Robertus nullum alium heredem habuerit quam predictas Amabilem et Milisantam tunc predicti Gilebertus et Amabilis et heredes [ama]bilis tenebunt manerium de Dauby de ipso Roberto sicut tenuerunt die qua hec concordia facta fuit tota vita ipsius Roberti Et predicti Radulfus et Milisanta et heredes ipsius Milisante tenebunt predictam terram de Strubby sicut tenuerunt die qua [hec concor]dia facta fuit tota vita ipsius Roberti Et post decessum ipsius Roberti totum manerium de Chaucumbe cum pertinentiis et medietas manerii de Aspel' cum capitali mesuagio et aliis pertinentiis suis et aesnescia ipsius Amabilis [...] [pre]dictis Gilberto et Amabili et heredibus ipsius Amabilis in perpetuum in proparte ipsius Amabilis de hereditate que fuit ipsius Roberti Et manerium de Dauby cum pertinentiis et tota predicta terra de Strubby cum pertinentiis et [...] [as]pel cum pertinentiis integre remanebunt predictis Radulfo et Milisante et heredibus ipsius Milisante in perpetuum in proparte ipsius Milisante de hereditate eadem salva predictis Gileberto et Amabili aesnescia ipsius Amabilis sicut[predictum est] [...] militum Et omnes terre que fuerunt ipsius Roberti vel que ipsi Roberto accidere poterunt vel quas adquirere poterit dimidiabuntur inter predictos Gilbertum et Amabilem et heredes ipsius Amabilis et predictos Radulfum et [...] Milisante secundum legem et consuetudinem regni Anglie Et hec concordia facta fuit presentibus predictis Gilberto et Amabile et illam concedentibus Et sciendum quod idem Robertus concessit [...] vel feodis vendet vel dabit vel aliquo modo alienabit sine consilio Stephani de Segrave et Willelmi Basset Et pro hac recongnitione warantia fine et concordia idem Radulfus et Milisanta dedit [r]oberto unum spervarium sorum [William T. Reedy, Basset Charters c1120-1250. London; Pipe Roll Society, 1995. no. 137]

After Robert's death, on 10 April 1239 another fine was made whereby some adjustments were made to accommodate his widow, Juliana. Ralph Bassett of Sapcote and his wife Millicent recognised 1 1/2 carucates in Strubby (Lincs) to be the maritagium of Juliana, widow of Robert of Chacombe. Gilbert de Segrave and his wife Mabel, sister of Millicent, conceded to them 100 solidates of land and rent in Chacombe. Juliana quitclaimed to Ralph and Millicent all her dower rights in the manor of Great Dalby. In return they conceded to Juliana a dower of 8 marks per year and after Juliana's death the land in Strubby was to revert to Ralph and Millicent. The 100 shillings in rent from Chacombe would revert to Gilbert and Mabel.
Hec est finalis concordia facta in curia domini regis apud sanctam Brigidam Lond' a die Pasche in quindecim dies anno regni regis Henrici filii Regis Johannis vicesimo tertio coram Roberto de Lexinton' Willelmo de Ebor' et Henrico de Bathon' justic' et aliis domini regis fidelibus tunc ibi presentibus inter Julianam que fuit uxor Roberti de Chaucumbe petentem et Radulfum Basset et Milesentam uxorem eius tenentes per Radulfum de Ayncurt positum loco ipsius Milesente ad lucrandum vel perdendum de una carucata terre et dimidia cum pertinentiis in Stroby quas eadem Juliana clamavit esse jus et maritagium suum et unde placitum fuit inter eos in eadem curia- scilicet quod predicti Radulfus et Milesenta recognoverunt totam predictam terram cum pertinentiis esse jus et maritagium ipsius Juliane et illam ei reddiderunt in eadem curia Et pro hac recognitione redditione fine et concordia Gilbertus de Segrave et Amabilia uxor eius soror predicte Milesente et particeps hereditatis Roberti de Chaucumbe per Stephanum de Halstede positum loco ipsius Amabilie ad lucrandum [v]el perdendum concesserunt predictis Radulfo et Milesente et heredibus ipsius Milisente centum solidatas terre et redditus cum pertinentiis in Chaucumbe in comitatu Norhant' scilicet unam virgatam terre cum pertinentiis quam Robertus sub gardino tenuit et unam virg[atam] terre cum pertinentiis quam Sabina [...] tenuit et unam virgatam terre cum pertinentiis quam Hugo de la Pleghestowe tenuit et unam virgatam terre cum pertinentiis quam Adam athe Hulle tenuit et decem solidatas redditus de molendino de Chaucumbe percipiendas singulis annis per manum molendinarii eiusdem molendini quicumque fuerit molendinarius eiusdem molendini ad duos terminos scilicet ad festum sancti Michaelis quinque solidos et ad Pascha quinque solidos Et predicta Juliana concessit pro se quod non vendet dabit invadiabit vel aliquo alio modo alienabit aliquid de predicta terra de Stroby quoniam tota predicta terra cum pertinentiis post decessum ipsius Juliane revertatur ad predictos Radulfum et Milesentam et heredes ipsius Milesente Et predicte centum solidate terre et redditus cum pertinentiis de Chaucumbe scilicet post decessum ipsius Juliane revertantur ad predictos Gilbertum et Amabiliam et heredes ipsius Amabilie quiete inperpetuum nisi predicta Juliana habuerit pueros de viro sibi desponsato procreatos qui inde habeant si quid secundum consuetudinem regni her[editat]em Et preterea eadem Juliana remisit et quietum clamavit de se eisdem Radulfo et Milesente et heredibus ipsius Milesente totum jus et clamium quod habuit in manerio de Dauby Chaucumbe cum pertinentiis in comitatu Leyrc' nomine dotis in perpetuum Et pro h[ac remissi]one quieta clamantia fine et concordia predicti Radulfus et Milesenta concesserunt pro se et heredibus ipsius Milesente eidem Juliane octo marcas per annum nomine dotis percipiendas per manus ipsorum Radulfi et Milesente et heredum ipsius Milesente apud Dauby ad duos terminos scilicet medietatem infra octabas sancti Michaelis et aliam medietatem infra octabas Pasche. [William T. Reedy, Basset Charters c1120-1250. London; Pipe Roll Society, 1995. no. 149].
The significant point about the above charter is that Julian's maritagium is specifically stated to be two carucates, or one and a half carucates of land with pertinences in Strubby. Robert de Chacombe is recorded as holding a third part of Scruby [i.e Strubby] in 1210/2 as an escheat owing to felony [RBE, p.518]. There are two Strubbys in Lincolnshire, one associated with, and referred to, as sokeland of Aby. It was located near Maltby le Marsh, four miles south west of Mablethorpe, on the coast. The other Strubby is near Langton by Wragby 25 miles west of the other Strubby. Evidence indicates that it is the former in which the Chaucombes had an interest.
In 1227 William de Welle attorned John de Anford against Robert de Chacombe and Juliana his wife over two carucates of land in Strubby [Close Rolls 1227-1231, p.87], which can probably be identified as Juliana's marriage portion. A search of the curia regis rolls between 1227 and 1230 reveals no court action between them but perhaps a fine exists. Adam de Welle is recorded holding one fee in Aby and Strubby in 1303 [Feudal Aids vol.III, p.172], and his inquisition post mortem records it was held of the king as of the honour of Dover rendering half a mark yearly for the guard of the castle there. In 1311, his holding in Strubby consisted of a messuage and a croft, 15 acres of arable land, 6 acres of meadow and rents of free tenants [CIPM V 352].
An account of the de Welle family is given in CP XII/2 pp. 436-450. If Juliana was a de Welle, she could be placed chronologically as the sister of William de Welle (d.1241/42) of the close roll entry, daughter of Robert de Welle and an unidentified Maud, and the grand-daughter of William de Welle and the unnamed daughter of Walter de Gaunt and Maud, daughter of Stephen, count of Brittany. The Gaunts had considerable landed interests in Lincolnshire (68 knights' fees in 1166) but both they and the de Welle family were opponents of the crown from 1215 to about 1217 when they took the part of the Barons, and Gilbert de Gaunt sided with Louis of France in his attempted invasion of England. As well as holding 4 fees of the Gaunts, the Welle family also had 6 fees of Simon, earl of Northampton in 1166. It is not obvious how a Welle/Chaucombe marriage might have occurred as little common ground is evident.
Another issue arising out of the fines is that Millicent and her heirs were to have the manor of Great Dalby in Leicestershire. Because this manor later appears in the hands of the Segrave family (as Dalby Chalcombe in the IPM of John de Segrave d. 1325), perhaps Millicent died without issue and was not the mother of Simon Basset. A search of the archives reveals a posting by Alan B Wilson in 1996 who recorded that Eleanor Segrave had Great Dalby as her maritagium on her marriage to Roger [corrected to Alan in followup posting] la Zouche, citing AR7 line 31-29. It is included in the 1314 IPM of Roger de la Zouche as Chaucombe Dalby, but it appears to have reverted the Segrave family as above and appears in 1326 in the hands of John, son of Stephen de Segrave (C 143/233/11). Listed as Dalby Chacombe it was held by Thomas, duke of Norfolk in 1428 (Feudal Aids, v.3 p. 119), and passed to Isabel Mowbray, wife of Viscount James de Berkeley. If the manor was not sold back to the Segraves, this has implications for the maternity of Roger de la Zouche's daughters, Maud and Ellen. I've not traced what happened to the 2 carucates of land in Strubby. It does not appear later in the hands of either the Segraves or the Bassets. [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 10/6/2004-175054]



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