Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- John V De SUTTON Birth: Feb 1379/80
Death: 3 Sep 1406
Marriage:
Bibliography
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Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 04 Dacre-Dysart. London: St Catherine Press, 1916. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 4 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo04byucoka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IV [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Baltimore, MD: Genelogical Publishing Co, 2004. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson PA p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p102]
- 6 Dec 1361 [Ref: Burke Peerage p633, Faris PA2 p122, Montague-Smith
Dudley p134, Richardson PA p277, Weis AR7 #81],
- place:
- [Ref: Faris PA2 p122, Richardson PA p277, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p102],
- parents:
- [Ref: Montague-Smith Dudley p134, Richardson PA p277, Richardson
RoyalAnc v4p140, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p101, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p102],
- father:
- [Ref: Burke Peerage p633, CP IV p479(e), Faris PA2 p122, Roberts RD600
p298, Roberts RD600 p312, Roberts RD600 p319, Roberts RD600 p330, Roberts
RD600 p351, Roberts USPres p192, Roberts USPres p207, Weis AR7 #81]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- mother:
- Katherine de STAFFORD (#19112) [Ref: Burke Peerage p633, Faris PA2
p122, Roberts RD600 p298, Roberts RD600 p312, Roberts RD600 p319, Roberts
RD600 p330, Roberts RD600 p351, Roberts USPres p192, Roberts USPres p207, Weis
AR7 #81]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- [Ref: Faris PA2 p122, Richardson PA p277, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p102]
- 10 Mar 1396 [Ref: Montague-Smith Dudley p134]
- 1395/6 [Ref: CP IV p479(e), Weis AR7 #81]
Sources with Information about marriage to Alice Le DESPENSER
- date:
- first marriage of John [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p102],
- names:
- [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p216]
- John IV & perhaps Alice first wife [Ref: Weis AR7 #81],
- child:
- [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p102, Weis AR7 #81]
Sources with Information about marriage to Joan
- date:
- abt 1379 [Ref: Montague-Smith Dudley p134]
- second mariage of John [Ref: Burke Peerage p633, Richardson RoyalAnc
v5p102],
- names:
- [Ref: Faris PA2 p122, Richardson PA p277, Roberts RD600 p298, Roberts
RD600 p312, Roberts RD600 p319, Roberts RD600 p330, Roberts RD600 p351,
Roberts USPres p192, Roberts USPres p207, Weis AR7 #81]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- child:
- John SUTTON (#19119) [Ref: Burke Peerage p633, Faris PA2 p122,
Montague-Smith Dudley p134, Richardson PA p277, Roberts RD600 p298, Roberts
RD600 p312, Roberts RD600 p319, Roberts RD600 p330, Roberts RD600 p351,
Roberts USPres p192, Roberts USPres p207]
Research Notes:
Knt, of Greathampstead Someries (in Luton), Bedfordshire, Malpas and
Shocklach, Cheshire, Aston le Walls and Appletree, Northamptonshire, etc [Ref:
Richardson RoyalAnc v4p216, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p102]
of Dudley Castle [Ref: Faris PA2 p122]
heir of his father [Ref: Faris PA2 p122, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p102]
son and heir of John Sutton, of Dudley Castle [Ref: CP IV p479(e)]
date and place of his birth are confirmed by two jurors at the
Inquisition post mortem ofr John Sutton IV. One juror, Philip Egerton of
Egerton in the partish of Malpas, co Chester, stated that John, son of John de
Sutton, was aged 1 1/2 years at the Feast of the Nativity of St John the
Baptist in 1362; this probably lodged in his mind because the Inquisition of a
predecessor, Philip de Egerton, occurred in the same year. Another juror,
Robert de Belew, said that he well knew that John was born at Coleshill on the
Feast of St Nicholas next after "the middle plague", which was in the 34th
year of Edward III (1360), at which time "Edward the late King and Edward
Prince of Wales, his eldest son, returned with their army from France." This
evacuation followed upon the Treaty of Bretigny, signed on 8 May 1360, when on
18 May King Edward embarked at Honfleur with four of his sons. From this it
would appear that John IV had been born in1360, but the official end of the
war, with cereminial for the King of France, extended towards the end of 1361,
and the King, with three of his sons, left for England, reaching London on 9
November 1361. This return must have been a memorable occasion for this juror
which fixed the date in his mind. That the date was indeed properly establshed
at the Inquisition as 1361 is shown by the fact that he had reached full age
by 13 May 1383, when he was permitted to enter upon his father's lands. [Ref:
Montague-Smith Dudley p135]
possible first marriage of John De Sutton to Alice le Despenser, daughter of
Philip le Despenser [Ref: Weis AR7 #81]
first marriage of Alice le Despenser dismissed in _TG_ for lack of evidence;
if it was a marriage, perhaps a child marriage without consummation [Ref:
Marshall Kirk SGM 3/18/1998]
Knt [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p140, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p101]
d.s.p v.m [Ref: Montague-Smith Dudley p134]
Pedigree of John IV De SUTTON
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Hervey De SUTTON
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Rowland De SUTTON
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William De SUTTON
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Richard De LEXINTON
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Alice De LEXINTON
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Robert De SUTTON
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Matilda
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Richard De SUTTON
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Johanna
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Sir John I De SUTTON, Lord Of Dudley Castle
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Robert PATRIC
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William PATRICK
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Richard Fitz NIGEL
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Robert Fitz RICHARD
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Letitia
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Gisela Fitz ROBERT
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Isabel PATRICK
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(Unk) (Unk)
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William De MALPAS
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David Le CLERC
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Beatrice De MALPAS
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Sir John II De SUTTON
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John De SOMERY
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Sir Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley
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Ralph PAYNEL, Baron Of Dudley
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Hawise De PAYNELL
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(Unk Dau) De FERRERS
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Sir Roger De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley
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William Le GROS
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William Le GROS
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Margaret Le GROS
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John Fitz GILBERT The Marshal
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(Unk dau) Marshall
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Sibyl De SALISBURY
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Sir Roger De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley
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Hugh De CHAUCOMBE
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Sir Robert De CHAUCOMBE
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Amabil
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Amabil De CHAUCOMBE
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William De CORNHILL
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Julian De CORNHILL
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Margaret De SOMERY, Baroness Dudley
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Robert De LUCY
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Avelina
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Agnes De LUCY
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Herbran De SACKVILLE
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Robert De SACKVILLE
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Emma De SACKVILLE
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Letitia
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Sir John III De SUTTON
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Robert CHERLETON
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John CHERLETON, Lord Cherleton
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Isabel De CHERLETON
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Gruffyd AP WENNONWEN De La POLE
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Owain Ap GRIFFITH De La POLE, Prince Of Powys
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Sir John LeSTRANGE
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Hawise LeSTRANGE
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Hawise FERCH OWAIN De La POLE
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Sir Robert CORBET
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Joan CORBET
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Sir John LeSTRANGE
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(Unk) Le STRANGE
John IV De SUTTON
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Osbert De CLINTON
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Osbert De CLINTON
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Osbert De CLINTON
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William De HATTON
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Margaret HATTON
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Thomas De CLINTON
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Elisant
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John De CLINTON
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James De BISEY
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Mazera De BISEY
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John De CLINTON
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Sir John De CLINTON
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Robert De GRENDON
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Alice De GRENDON
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Joan CLINTON
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Sir Roger HILLARY
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Joan HILLARY
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Rowland De SUTTON
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William De SUTTON
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Alice De LEXINTON
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Robert De SUTTON
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Matilda
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Richard De SUTTON
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Johanna
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Sir John I De SUTTON, Lord Of Dudley Castle
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Robert PATRIC
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William PATRICK
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Robert Fitz RICHARD
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Gisela Fitz ROBERT
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Isabel PATRICK
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William De MALPAS
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David Le CLERC
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Beatrice De MALPAS
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Katherine De SUTTON
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John De SOMERY
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Sir Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley
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Hawise De PAYNELL
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Sir Roger De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley
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William Le GROS
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Margaret Le GROS
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(Unk dau) Marshall
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Sir Roger De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley
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Hugh De CHAUCOMBE
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Sir Robert De CHAUCOMBE
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Amabil
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Amabil De CHAUCOMBE
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William De CORNHILL
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Julian De CORNHILL
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Margaret De SOMERY, Baroness Dudley
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Robert De LUCY
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Avelina
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Agnes De LUCY
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Herbran De SACKVILLE
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Robert De SACKVILLE
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Emma De SACKVILLE
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Letitia
Descendants of John IV De SUTTON
2nd generation
3rd generation
4th generation
5th generation
m.
Cecily WILLOUGHBY father:
Sir William WILLOUGHBY mother:
Joan STRANGEWAYS
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Eleanor SUTTON m1.
Charles SOMERSET, K.G., Earl of Worcester m2.
Leonard GREY, Viscount Grane;
Charles SOMERSET, K.G., Earl of Worcester father:
Henry BEAUFORT, Duke Of Somerset mother:
Joan HILL;
Leonard GREY, Viscount Grane father:
Thomas GREY, K.G., Marquess of Dorset mother:
Cicely BONVILLE, Baroness Harrington And Bonvil