Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 09-30-2024.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.


Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom available to be downloaded.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.


Individual Page

    Person Info
  • Name: Joan
  • Sex: F
  • Death: 26 Mar 1408 d


    • Parents:

Family:
Marriage:
Bibliography
  1. Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
  2. Faris, David, Plantagenet ancestry of seventeenth century colonists: the descent from the later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, Edward II, and Edward III, of emigrants from England and Wales to the North American colonies before 1701, second edition. Boston: New England Historical Genealogical Society, 1999. NYPL APR (New England) 01-1513. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Faris PA2 p[0-9ivxc]*].
  3. Kirk, Marshall, Dudley/le Despenser. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 3/18/1998. Subject: Dudley/le Despenser. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/dfYJ2a3DxEE/m/oK4T1_nO804J. Author address: kennwalrus at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Marshall Kirk SGM 3/18/1998].
  4. Montague-Smith, Patrick W, An Unrecorded line of descent from King Edward I of England with some early settled American Descendants, The Genealogist 5,2 (1984), pp131-157. NYPL APA 82-1000. Available at https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/genealogist-the/image/. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Montague-Smith Dudley p[0-9]*].
  5. Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Baltimore, MD: Genelogical Publishing Co, 2004. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson PA p[0-9]*].
  6. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p[0-9]*].
  7. Roberts, Gary Boyd, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States: who were themselves notable or left descendants notable in American history, with a 2008 Addendum, Coda, and Final Additions. Baltimore, MD: Gen Pub Co, 2008. NYPL APK 08-4216. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Roberts RD600 p[0-9]*].
  8. Roberts, Gary Boyd, Ancestors of American Presidents, First Authoritative Edition. Santa Clarita, CA: Carl Boyer, 1995. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Roberts USPres [A-Zp][A-Z0-9]*].
  9. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p102]
Apr 1408 [Ref: Faris PA2 p122, Montague-Smith Dudley p134, Richardson PA p277]
inq.p.m. 1409 [Ref: Weis AR7 #81]
Sources with Information about marriage to John IV De SUTTON
date:
abt 1379 [Ref: Montague-Smith Dudley p134]
second mariage of John [Ref: Burke Peerage p633, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p102],
names:
[Ref: Faris PA2 p122, Richardson PA p277, Roberts RD600 p298, Roberts RD600 p312, Roberts RD600 p319, Roberts RD600 p330, Roberts RD600 p351, Roberts USPres p192, Roberts USPres p207, Weis AR7 #81]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
John SUTTON (#19119) [Ref: Burke Peerage p633, Faris PA2 p122, Montague-Smith Dudley p134, Richardson PA p277, Roberts RD600 p298, Roberts RD600 p312, Roberts RD600 p319, Roberts RD600 p330, Roberts RD600 p351, Roberts USPres p192, Roberts USPres p207]
Research Notes:
tentatively identifed as an Arundel (or a d'Arundel) [Ref: Marshall Kirk SGM 3/18/1998]

A piece of potential evidence as to her identity that no-one seems to have commented on is that Humphrey Dudley esq., son -- not, as all earlier pedigrees seem to make him, brother -- of John Sutton VI, married in 1448 Alianore de Ros, apparently of Hamlake; in order to do so, the couple received a papal dispensation for 3rd and 4th degree consanguinity. Humphrey's ancestry is known in all lines for several generations back, except for Joan [ ]; Alianore's is less well worked out. Even so, a careful comparison of what *is* known of the two _Ahnentafeln_ might considerably narrow the possibilities. [Ref: Marshall Kirk SGM 3/18/1998]

possibly a daughter of John, first Lord Arundel, younger brother of Sir John Sutton's guardian; wardship and marriage of Sir John Sutton IV, was granted to Richard Fitzalan, Earl of Arundel and Admiral of England [Ref: Montague-Smith Dudley p137]



Pedigree of Joan
Joan



Descendants of Joan
1. Joan m. John IV De SUTTON
m. John IV De SUTTON father: Sir John III De SUTTON mother: Joan CLINTON