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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Benedicta Abbess Of Susteren
  2. Caecilia Abbess Of Susteren

Bibliography
  1. Brandenburg, Erich, Die Nachkommen Karls des Grossen, Faksimile-Nachdruck von 1935 (Facsimile reproduction of 1935), mit Korrekturen und Erganzungen versehen von (with corrections and additions provided by) Manfred Dreiss und Lupold v. Lehsten. Neustadt an der Aisch:Verlag Degener, 1995. NYPL ATH (Charlemagne) 96-4768. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p[0-9]*].
  2. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. I: Die Stammesherzoge, Die Weltlichenkurforsten, Die Kaiserlichen, Koniglichen und Grossherzoglichen Familien. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1980. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES I #[0-9]*].
  3. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. I.1: Die frankischen Konige und die Konige und Kaiser, Stammesherzoge, Kurfursten, Markgrafen und Herzoge des Heiligen Romischen Reiches Deutscher Nation. Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, 1998. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES I.1 #[0-9]*].
  4. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. VI: Familien des Alten Lotharingien I. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES VI #[0-9]*].
  5. The Henry Project: The Ancestors of King Henry II of England, An eperiment in a cooperative online database for scholarly medieval genealogy. Contributors and Editors: Stewart Baldwin, Todd Farmerie, Peter Stewart. Available at https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: HenryII .*].
  6. Parsons, John Carmi, Megingoz/Meingaud. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 9/17/1998. Subject: Megingoz/Meingaud. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/5Q2EZ2lvVC0/m/rOojYv8YesgJ. Author address: jparsons at chass dot utoronto dot ca. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/17/1998].
  7. Settipani, Christian, La prehistore des Capetiens: 481-987. Villeneue d'Asacq: P. Van Kerrebrouck, 1993. NYPL ASF (Capet) 94-7243. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Settipani Capet [p#][0-9]*].
  8. Baldwin, Stewart, Carolingian table in the Munich manuscript. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 3/14/2002. Subject: Carolingian table in the Munich manuscript. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/pZ4nwakttLY/m/_sKSZMxZ6T8J. Author address: sbaldw at mindspring dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Stewart Baldwin SGM 3/14/2002-141143 .*].
  9. exet0133, Oda von Sachsen. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 11/25/1996. Subject: Oda de Paris or von Sachsen ?. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/FG7m5-4r4Bg/m/KUQk4nFBPH4J. Author address: exet0133 at SABLE dot OX dot AC dot UK. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: exet0133 SGM 11/25/1996].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
870/71 [Ref: ES I.1 #5]
abt 870 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p2]
abt 870-1 [Ref: Settipani Capet #6],
father:
[Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p2, ES I #2, ES I.1 #5, Settipani Capet #6, Stewart Baldwin SGM 3/14/2002-141143 (Munich manuscript)],
mother:
enehelich [Ref: ES I #2]
unk first wife [Ref: Settipani Capet #6]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p2, ES I #2, ES I.1 #10, ES I.1 #5, HenryII otto0000 4/3/2011]
900 [Ref: Settipani Capet #6, exet0133 SGM 11/25/1996]
Sources with Information about marriage to Udo Of Saxony
date:
(879) [Ref: ES I #2]
27.III/13.VI 897 [Ref: ES I.1 #10, ES I.1 #5]
879 [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p2]
897, after Easter [Ref: HenryII otto0000 4/3/2011]
May 897 [Ref: exet0133 SGM 11/25/1996]
first marriage of Oda [Ref: ES VI #129]
first marriage of Uda [Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 9/17/1998]
first marriage of Uota [Ref: HenryII godef001 4/5/2007],
place:
[Ref: exet0133 SGM 11/25/1996],
child:
[Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p8, ES I.1 #5, Settipani Capet #6]
Research Notes:
King of Lorraine [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p2, ES I #2, ES I.1 #10, HenryII otto0000 4/3/2011, Settipani Capet #6]

May 895: King of Lorrain [Ref: Brandenburg 1995 p2]
895: Koenig von Lothringen [Ref: ES I #2, ES I.1 #10]
894: King of Lorraine [Ref: Settipani Capet #6]

The information about Z's marriage is given in the 'Chronicle of Regino of Prum', who was writing at Mainz c.906. He says that Oda married Zwentibold at Worms may 897. She was the daughter of a Count Otto (Regino 897). In 900 Zwentibold was killed in a skirmish with Ct Gerard and his brothers. Ct Gerard (sometimes called 'of Metz' by historians etc) then married his widow Oda (Regino 900). Gerard was exiled to Alemannia by Louis the Child at Metz in 906. He had died by 916. A german historian called Dummler whose works on the German Carolingians remain the standard research books (I forget the full title, something like 'Yearbook for Louis the German', III, 457), worked out that this count Otto was Otto the Illustrious of Saxony (d.912 never king of Germany by the way, just duke), and has been followed by German historians (and many others) ever since, eg K.F.Werner 'Die Nachkommen..', E.Hlawitschka 'Lotharingia und der Reich und der Schwelle der Deutsche Geschichte' (sp?), T.Reuter 'Germany in the Early Middle Ages 800-1056. [Ref: exet0133 SGM 11/25/1996]

----- Europaische Stammtafeln I.1 #5 ("Die Karlinger II, 881-887 und 896-899 Kaiser, 882-911 Konige von Ostfranken"): Zwentibold V 895 Kg v Lothringen *870/71 d. 13.VIII 900; m. 27.III/13.VI 897 Oda v Sachsen d. 2.VII nach 952 T v Hz Otto dem Erlauchten (Lidolfinger) (m2 900 Gerhard Graf (Matfride) d. in battle 22.VI 910); children (dotted line): Benedicta, Caecilie [Ref: ES I.1 #5]



Pedigree of Zwentibold King Of Lorraine
                                                                /-----Pepin Of Heristal, Mayor Of Palace
                                                       /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
                                                      |         \-----Aupais
                                              /-----Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
                                             |        |         /-----Lambertus II Of Hesbaye
                                             |         \-----Chrotrudis
                                     /-----Charlemagne King Of France
                                    |        |                  /-----(Unk Son) Of Bavaria
                                    |        |         /-----Caribert Count Of Laon
                                    |        |        |         \-----Bertrade De Preum
                                    |         \-----Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
                                    |                  \-----Gisele
                            /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
                           |        |                  /-----Agilolf
                           |        |         /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
                           |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
                           |                 |                  /-----Houching Duke Of Alamannia
                           |                 |         /-----Hnabi Duke Of Alamannia, Count In The Linzgau
                           |                  \-----Emma
                           |                           \-----Hersuinde
                   /-----Louis Le Germanique, King Of Bavaria
                  |        |                                    /-----Lambertus II Of Hesbaye
                  |        |                           /-----Sigramine Count Of Hasbania
                  |        |                  /-----Gunderland Count Of Hasbania
                  |        |                 |        |         /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
                  |        |                 |         \-----Landrade
                  |        |         /-----Ingerman Count Of Hasbaye
                  |         \-----Ermengarde Of Haspengau
          /-----Carloman King Of Bavaria
         |        |                           /-----Guelph Duke Of Fruili, Count Of Bavaria
         |        |                  /-----Ruthardus Duke Of Bavaria
         |        |         /-----Guelph Count Of Andech And Bavaria
         |         \-----Emma Of Bavaria
         |                 |         /-----(Unk) Saxon
         |                  \-----Edith (Heilwig) Of Saxony, Abbess Of Chelles
 /-----Arnulph Emperor Of Germany
|        |                  /-----Hunroch Count of Ternois
|        |         /-----Ernst Markgraf In Nordgau
|        |        |        |                  /-----Girard Count Of Paris
|        |        |        |         /-----Begue Count Of Paris
|        |        |        |        |        |                  /-----Charles Martel, The Hammer, Mayor Of The Palace, King Of France
|        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Carloman Mayor Of The Palace
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Chrotrudis
|        |        |        |        |         \-----Rotrude
|        |        |         \-----Engeltron Of Paris
|        |        |                 |                           /-----Pepin The Short King Of The Franks
|        |        |                 |                  /-----Charlemagne King Of France
|        |        |                 |                 |         \-----Bertha Of Laon, Countess Of Laon
|        |        |                 |         /-----Louis I The Fair Emperor Of The West
|        |        |                 |        |        |         /-----Gerold I Count In The Anglachau
|        |        |                 |        |         \-----Hildegarde Of Swabia, Countess Of Vinzgau
|        |        |                 |        |                  \-----Emma
|        |        |                  \-----Aupals
|         \-----Liusindis Of Nordgau
Zwentibold King Of Lorraine



Descendants of Zwentibold King Of Lorraine
1. Zwentibold King Of Lorraine m. Udo Of Saxony
m. Udo Of Saxony father: Otto The Illustrious Duke Of Saxony mother: Hedwige/Hadui/Haduich