Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 09-28-2022.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.


Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom may be downloaded here.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.


Individual Page


Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Waleran De MONCEAUX
  2. Robert De MONCEAUX Death: After 1272

Bibliography
  1. Ravilious, John, Walter the Deacon to Sir Martin de la See. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 11/26/2003. Subject: Domesday Descent: Walter 'the Deacon' to Sir Martin de la See. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/4FbXSRkTxFg/m/cvFEvOE26BMJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/26/2003-072359].
  2. Ravilious, John, Thurstan de Banastre. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/27/2006. Subject: Two Maud Banesters ? wifes of William Comyn and William Hastings. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/3zMfwXv52tE/m/qW8lJZB1TPgJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 8/27/2006-142441].
  3. Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
mother:
a daughter of Juliana [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/26/2003-072359, John Ravilious SGM 8/27/2006-142441]
Sources with Information about marriage to Ingelran De MONCEAUX
date:
before 1199 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/26/2003-072359, John Ravilious SGM 8/27/2006-142441],
child:
[Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/26/2003-072359, John Ravilious SGM 8/27/2006-142441, Keats-Rohan DD p590]
Research Notes:
one of the heiresses of John fitz Waleran [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/26/2003-072359, John Ravilious SGM 8/27/2006-142441, Keats-Rohan DD p590]

the mother of Idonea, wife of Ingram de Monceaux was evidently the child of Juliana 'filia Johanni': Idonea was coheiress of Juliana Doisnel together with William de Warberton[3]; to have equal right as coheir with William, Idonea must have been either a daughter of Juliana, or daughter of a daughter of Juliana (and William the son of a daughter of Juliana, other than the mother of Idonea) [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 8/27/2006-142441]

with her son Robert, benefactor of Robertsbridge abbey [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/26/2003-072359, John Ravilious SGM 8/27/2006-142441, Keats-Rohan DD p590]

as to Ingram de Monceaux's holdings in right of his wife, K. Keats-Rohan wrote:
John fitz Waleran was not the ancestor of the Tanys of Aveley. They descended from the issue of Matilda, heiress and doubtless daughter of the Roger who held it in 1086 from John fitz Waleran. John's heir was his daughter Juliana, wife in 1129 of William of Hastings (PR 31 Henry I, 58). She was subsequently the wife of Robert Doisnel, a royal marshal whose daughter Juliana was married to Henry II's servant William fitz Aldelin and died without issue. In 1199 her heirs in both the land of John fitz Waleran and the marshal serjeanty held by Robert Doisnel were William of Warberton and Ingelran de Monceaux, whose rights derived from his wife Idonea de Monceaux (Farrer, HKF iii, 376). William, the senior heir, and Idonea, were probably descendants of the elder Juliana's first marriage to William of Hastings. Part of the inheritance they shared was five fees at Herstmonceaux and Warberton held of the count of Eu in the Rape of Hastings (citing K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, "Additions and Corrections to Sanders's Baronies Prosopon, Number 11 (July 2000)") [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/26/2003-072359]



Pedigree of Idonea
Idonea
|                                    /-----Tedric
|                           /-----Walter The Deacon Fitz TEDRIC
|                  /-----Robert Fitz Walter Of Windsor, Baron Of Little Easton
|         /-----William Fitz ROBERT, Baron Of Little Easton
|        |        |                                    /-----Cosmus Duke Of Florence
|        |        |                           /-----Otterus Baron Of Gherardini Of Florence
|        |        |                  /-----Otho GERALDINO, Baron Of Windsor
|        |        |         /-----Walter FITZ OTHO, Baron Of Eton
|        |         \-----(Unk Dau) FITZ OTHO
|        |                  \-----Beatrice
 \-----(Unk dau) de HASTINGS
         |                           /-----Ranulf The Moneyer
         |                  /-----Waleran FITZRANULF
         |         /-----Johannes Fitz WALERAN
          \-----Juliana Fitz WALERAN



Descendants of Idonea
1. Idonea m. Ingelran De MONCEAUX
m. Ingelran De MONCEAUX father: Alan De MONCEAUX mother: Matilda

2nd generation

3. Robert De MONCEAUX m. Hawise
m. Hawise

3rd generation

4. Sir Ingram De MONCEAUX m. Emma De MARKINGTON
m. Emma De MARKINGTON father: Robert De MARKINGTON

4th generation

6. Thomas De MONCEAUX m. Eustache
m. Eustache
7. John De MONCEAUX m.

5th generation

8. Sir John De MONCEAUX m. Isabel
m. Isabel