Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Isabella De VERNON
- Joanna VERNON
- Sir Richard VERNON Birth: 1390
Death: 24 Aug 1451
Bibliography
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Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
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Cox, Anthony, Vernon chantries and benefactions to monasteries, in Derbyshire Miscellany, Local History Bulletin of the Derbyshire Archaeological Society, vol 17 no 6 (Autumn 2006). pp138-157. Available at https://derbyshireas.org.uk/DM17-06.pdf. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Cox VERNON p[0-9]*].
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Farnham, George F, Leicestershire Medieval Pedigrees. Leicester: Thornley, 1925. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007941560 images 458-633. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Farnham Pedigrees p[0-9]*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- 1370 [Ref: Weis AR7 #56A]
- abt 1371 (age 40 in 1411) [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p281]
- age 40 and more in 1411 [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 7/30/1998],
- parents:
- [Ref: Cox VERNON p141, Paul Reed SGM 7/30/1998, Richardson RoyalAnc
v4p668, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p281, Todd Farmerie SGM 5/4/1997-174940],
- father:
- [Ref: HoP 1386-1421 v4p712, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p142, Shaw
Staffordshire p122]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- father:
- Richard STACKPOLE (#161189) [Ref: Burke Peerage p2039, Weis AR7 #56A]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- 1439 [Ref: HoP 1386-1421 v4p712]
- living 1412 [Ref: Weis AR7 #56A]
- will dated 14 Oct 1437 pro 12 May 1439 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p281]
Sources for burial Information
- place:
- [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p281]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir Richard VERNON
- date:
- 1380 [Ref: Cox VERNON p141]
- contract dated 20 May 1380 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p281],
- names:
- [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p669, Shaw Staffordshire p122, Shaw
Staffordshire p126],
- child:
- [Ref: Burke Peerage p2039, Cox VERNON p141, Farnham Pedigrees p7, HoP
1386-1421 v4p712, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p142, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p281,
Roberts RD600 p497, Weis AR7 #56A]
Research Notes:
daughter and heir of Isabel Stackpole [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 7/30/1998]
heiress, by mother, to Stacpole [Ref: Shaw Staffordshire p126]
1380: marriage agreement, between Julianne, Madame de Vernon, and Rees ap
Gruffyth, agree to the marriage of her son Richard to his daughter Joan [Ref:
Todd Farmerie SGM 5/4/1997-174940]
It is not clear which parentage [of the two given in Weis AR7] is preferred
for Joan, wife of Richard de Vernon, as the text gives one, while the note the
opposite conclusion. The document quoted by Shaw appears definitive, and is
supported by a document abstracted in the Historical Manuscript Commission,
Rutland iv: 28. This reports a marriage indenture (20 May, 3 Ric I) between
Rees ap Griffyth and Juliane de Vernon, agreeing that Richard son of Juliane
should marry Johanne, daughter of Rees. This cannot be brought into agreement
with the 1411 i.p.m. of Lawrence Berkrolls, which appeared in Topographer and
Genealogist, i:533-5. This indicated that Lawrence held Coityf and other
properties (which once belonged to Richard Turburville), as coheir along with
Isabella de Stackpole, John de la Bere, and William Gamage. Then follows "Et
dicunt quod Johanna que fuit uxor Ric'i Vernon chivaler est propinquior heres
predicte Isabelle vid'i't. filia predicti Ric'i Stakepole filii predicte
Margarete et est etatis xl annorum et amplius." Thus, unless the author and I
have both misinterpreted the Latin, it would appear that this original source
names Joan as daughter of Richard Stackpole. This must be in error, or else
she and Isabelle would have been coheiresses of their Turberville share of
Coityf, rather than Isabelle alone representing this branch. I would suggest
that the author (or a transcriber) has dropped a generation from Joan's
pedigree, and that it should have read ". . . vid'l't. filia predicte Isabelle
fillia predicti Ric'i Stakepole . . . ." (Shaw and Nichols both beleived Joan
daughter of Isabelle. Bartrum supplies yet another solution, making Isabelle
wife of Rhys ap Griffith, Sr. and grandmother of Joan. This is incorrect,
however, as proven by a plea showing Ros Griffith (Jr.) was son of Joan de
Somerville, (wife of Rhys Sr), (Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls). Were this
true, Joan Griffith would not have been heiress of Isabelle, her
step-grandmother, to the exclusion of her (half-)brother Thomas Griffith.
[Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 8/1/1995]
Inq p.m. for Laurence Berkrolls, knt, describes his acquisition as son of a
sister and coheir of Richard Turburville. One of the other representatives of
this claim was Isabelle, daughter of Richard Stackpole, son of Margaret,
another sister of Turburville. Later, in describing Laurence's heirs, it names
one as Joan, wife of Richard Vernon Knt heiress of Isabelle, daughter of said
Richard Stackpole. This has been read to claim Joan was daughter of Richard,
but if so, Isabelle would not have been sole heiress of her share when
Laurence inherited the claim. Instead, it should be read as Joan is heiress of
Isabelle, which Isabelle was daughter of Richard Stackpole. Thus Joan was sole
heiress of Isabelle Stackpole. [Ref: Todd Farmerie SGM 5/4/1997-174940]
Joan de Vernon is in one place called daughter of Richard de Stackpole, but
this is clearly an error, as it was long after the fact, and found by a jury
not closely associated with her [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 7/31/1998]
proof that Joanna (Joan) was daughter of Rhys ap Griffith is given in Shaw's
_Hist. & Antiquities of Staffordshire_ I 122, 126, and app. p. 38, which
quotes an indenture made by William Marshal & wife Margaret, wid. of Sir Rhys
ap Griffith, Knt., together with Margaret's son, Thomas, eldest son & heir of
Sir Rhys, for properties of Sir Rhys, showing remainder for the estates, after
Thomas, son of Rhys, to his sister Joan, wid. of Sir Richard Vernon. Joan is
also called "heir of Stackpole", in _Cartae et Alia Munimenta quaea ad
Dominium de Glamorgancia pertnen_, 4 (Cardiff, 1910), pp. 1466-69, calling her
"dau. of Richard de Stackpole & heiress of Isabel, dau. of Richard de
Stackpole & gr.dau. of Margaret Turberville, sis. of Richard Turberville, lord
of Coity." From the dates known of these people and ages of death, it is
evident that Joan had to be the granddau., not dau., of Sir Richard de
Stackpole. [Ref: Weis AR7 #56A]
Pedigree of Johanna Ferch Rhys Ap Gruffudd
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Ednyfed Fychan
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Gruffudd Ab Ednyfed Fychan
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Sir Hywel Ap Gruffudd
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Hywel Ap Trahearn Of Llangors
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Gwenllian Ferch Hywel
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Gruffudd Ap Ifor Bach
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Nest Ferch Gruffudd
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William Meullant FITZ ROBERT, Earl Of Gloucester
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Mabel
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Gruffudd Ap Hywel
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Tangwystl Ferch Dafydd Goch
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Sir Rhys Hen Ap Gruffudd
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Gwrwared Ap Gwilym of Cemais
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Sir Rhys Ap Griffith
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Sir John De SOMERVILLE
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Robert De SOMERVILLE
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Sir Philip De SOMERVILLE
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Ralph De MERLAY, Baron Of Morpeth
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Roger De MERLAY, Baron Of Morpeth
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Juliana Of Dunbar
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Roger De MERLAY, Baron Of Morpeth
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Roger De STUTEVILLE
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Alice De STUTEVILLE
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Roger De MERLAY, Baron Of Morpeth
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Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Regent Of Scotlan
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Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Justiciar Of Scot
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Ada MACDUFF
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Ela
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Isabel De MERLAY
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Everhard De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley
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Robert De ROS, Magna Charta Surety
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Roysia TRUSSEBUT
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Sir Robert De ROS, Baron Of Wark
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William The Lion King Of Scots
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Isabel Of Scotland
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Isabel AVERNAL
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Isabel De ROS
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Joan SOMERVILLE
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Sir Thomas De PYPE
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Margaret De PYPE
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Andrew De JARPENVILLE
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Joan De JARPENVILLE
Johanna Ferch Rhys Ap Gruffudd
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Sir Richard De STACKPOLE
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Richard De STACKPOLE
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Gilbert De TURBERVILLE
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Richard De TURBERVILLE
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Morgan CHAN
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Matilda
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Payne De TURBERVILLE
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Margaret De TURBERVILLE
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Gilbert TALBOT
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Richard TALBOT
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Gilbert TALBOT
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Sir Alan BASSET
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Aline BASSET
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Aline De GAI
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Richard TALBOT
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Rhys MECHYLL
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Gwenthlian MECHYLL
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Gwenllian TALBOT
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William De BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Salwarpe
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Walter De BEAUCHAMP
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Joan De St VALERIE
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William BEAUCHAMP, Baron Of Elmsley Castle
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Roger De MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
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Joan MORTIMER
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Isabel De FERRIERS
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Sarah De BEAUCHAMP
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Robert MAUDIT, Baron Of Hanslope
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William IV MAUDIT, Baron Of Hanslope
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Isabel BASSET
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Isabel MAUDUIT
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Waleran Beaumont De Newbourge, Earl Of Warwick
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Alice De NEWBOURGE
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Alice De Harcourt
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Isabel STACKPOLE
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