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    Person Info
  • Name: Joan GRAY
  • Sex: F
  • Death: 12 Sep 1434 d
  • Burial: Lambley, Nottinghamshire u


  • Parents:
  • Father:
  • Sir Thomas GRAY Birth: Abt 1315 Death: Oct 1369 in Heton, Co Northumberland
  • Mother:
  • Margaret De PRESFEN Death: After 1389

Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. William HERON Death: Before 1404
  2. Nicholas HERON Death: 1409
  3. John HERON Birth: 1381 Death: 1420

Marriage: Children:
  1. Maud CROMWELL Death: Dec 1454
  2. Juliane CROMWELL
  3. Ralph CROMWELL, Lord Cromwell Birth: Jan 1393 Death: 4 Jan 1455/6 in Wingfield, Derbyshire

Bibliography
  1. Banks, Thomas Christopher, Baronia anglica concentrata: or, A concentrated account of all the baronies commonly called baronies in fee; deriving their origin from writ of summons, and not from any specific limited creation. London: Simpkin, 1844. Available at https://archive.org/details/baroniaanglicaco01bankuoft. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Banks Baronies v[1-2]p[0-9]*].
  2. Barrett, Jonathan Tyers, Memorials of the parochial church, the collegiate chantry, and the chapel of St. Mary: commonly called Mortimer's Chapel, in the Parish of Attleborough, in the county of Norfolk, together with some account of the services used at the consecration of churches from the Anglo-Saxon to the present time, London: John W Parker, 1848. Available at https://archive.org/details/memorialsofparoc00barr. Also available at https://books.google.com/books?id=s0IIAAAAQAAJ. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Barrett Attleborough p[0-9]*].
  3. Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
  4. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 03 Canonteigh-Cutts. London: St Catherine Press, 1913. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 3 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo03coka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP III [Ap][p0-9].*].
  5. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 04 Dacre-Dysart. London: St Catherine Press, 1916. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 4 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo04byucoka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IV [Ap][p0-9].*].
  6. Farnham, George F, Leicestershire Medieval Pedigrees. Leicester: Thornley, 1925. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007941560 images 458-633. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Farnham Pedigrees p[0-9]*].
  7. Roskell, J S, History of Parliament: The House of Commons 1386-1421. Wolfboro Falls, NH: Alan Sutton, 1992. NYPL JFE 95-5018. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: HoP 1386-1421 v[1-4]p[0-9]*].
  8. Watson, John, First Wife of Sir Thomas Gray. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 4/10/2016. Subject: The First Wife of Sir Thomas Gray, Author of Scalacronica. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/rAnfeuapJfA/m/ngibZpyQLAAJ. Author address: watsonjohnm at gmail dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Watson SGM 4/10/2016-060447].
  9. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
  10. Bevan, Rosie, Joan sister of Thomas de Gray of Heton. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/15/2004. Subject: Thomas de Gray of Heton Sister Joan. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/ZMhVGQX5nRA/m/BrbFI7W9BJ0J. Author address: rbevan at fernside dot co dot nz. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 6/15/2004-045013].

Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
[Ref: CP IV p62(f), John Watson SGM 4/10/2016-060447, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p357, Rosie Bevan SGM 6/15/2004-045013],
brother:
Thomas GREY of Heton d.1400 [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 6/15/2004-045013],
name:
Elizabeth [Ref: Barrett Attleborough p182]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: John Watson SGM 4/10/2016-060447]
1434 [Ref: Burke Peerage p516, Farnham Pedigrees p42, HoP 1386-1421 v4p452]
between 26 Jul and 10 Aug 1434 [Ref: CP III p552]
will dated 26 Jul 1434 pro 10 Aug 1434 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p357, Rosie Bevan SGM 6/15/2004-045013]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: CP III p552, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p357]
Sources with Information about marriage to John HERON
date:
first marriage of Jane [Ref: John Watson SGM 4/10/2016-060447, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p357, Rosie Bevan SGM 6/15/2004-045013],
child:
[Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 6/15/2004-045013]
Sources with Information about marriage to Ralph CROMWELL, Lord Cromwell
date:
abt 29 Sep 1387 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p357]
second marriage of Jane [Ref: John Watson SGM 4/10/2016-060447, Rosie Bevan SGM 6/15/2004-045013],
child:
[Ref: Banks Baronies v1p168, Barrett Attleborough p182, Burke Peerage p516, CP III p552, CP III p553(b), Farnham Pedigrees p42, HoP 1386-1421 v4p452, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p357]
Research Notes:
Marriage settlement.Reference: CD/385
Creation dates: 3 Jul 1387
Scope and Content
Sir Ralph de Crumwelle the younger and Sir Thomas Gray, lord of Hetton [Yorks., W.R.] and Sir Thomas Doumfrayville. On the marriage of Sir Ralph and Lady Joan Heron, sister of Sir Thomas Gray, which is to take place at Michaelmas next, Gray, Doumfrayville, John de Dranffeld and Hugh de Mitford bound to Sir Ralph and Sir William fitzWilliam in a certain sum of money. Witnesses: Sir Darcy, Sir William fitzWilliam. Sir John de Birton, Sir Richard Parson of Anston [Yorks., W.R.], William de Leke, and Hugh de Mitford. Given at Temple Hurst ...a rich source for a number of reasons as it identifies Joan as (1) a sister of Thomas Grey of Heton d.1400, (2) widow of Sir John Heron of Crawley, (3) the wife of Sir Ralph Cromwell d.1417, and (4) highlights the relationships between the families named in the marriage settlement.
Thomas Grey and Margaret Presfen are known to have had a daughter named Joan (she actually seems to have been known as Jane), as seen in CP IV 62 note (f) which says that in 1367 Thomas conveyed all his lands to himself and Margaret, dau of William de Presfen, and their heirs, rem. to Joan de Coupland for life and with successive remainders to John Gray, Thomas Gray, Jane, Elizabeth, and Agnes children of the said Margaret. [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 6/15/2004-045013]



Pedigree of Joan GRAY
          /-----Sir Thomas GREY
 /-----Sir Thomas GRAY
|         \-----Agnes
Joan GRAY
|         /-----William De PRESFEN
 \-----Margaret De PRESFEN



Descendants of Joan GRAY
1. Joan GRAY m1. John HERON m2. Ralph CROMWELL, Lord Cromwell
m. John HERON father: Sir John HERON
m. Ralph CROMWELL, Lord Cromwell father: Sir Ralph CROMWELL, Lord Cromwell mother: Maud BERNAKE

2nd generation

5. Maud CROMWELL m. Sir Richard STANHOPE
m. Sir Richard STANHOPE father: John STANHOPE mother: Elizabeth MALOVELL

3rd generation

9. Maud STANHOPE m1. Robert De WILLOUGHBY, K.G., Lord Willoughby m2. Sir Thomas NEVILLE m3. Sir Gervase CLIFTON
m. Robert De WILLOUGHBY, K.G., Lord Willoughby father: William De WILLOUGHBY, K.G., Lord Willoughby mother: Lucy Le STRANGE
m. Sir Thomas NEVILLE father: Sir Richard De NEVILLE, K.G., Earl Of Salisbury mother: Alice MONTAGU, Countess Of Salisbury
m. Sir Gervase CLIFTON father: Sir Gervase De CLIFTON mother: Isabel FRAUNCEYS
10. Joan STANHOPE m1. Sir Humphrey BOURCHIER, Lord Cromwell m2. Sir Robert RADCLIFFE
m. Sir Humphrey BOURCHIER, Lord Cromwell father: Henry BOURCHIER, K.G., Earl of Essex mother: Isabel PLANTAGENET
m. Sir Robert RADCLIFFE father: Sir Thomas RADCLIFFE mother: Isabel BOTELER

4th generation

11. Catherine CLIFTON m. Sir Thomas BLOUNT
m. Sir Thomas BLOUNT father: Sir Thomas BLOUNT mother: Margaret GRESLEY

5th generation

13. Richard BLOUNT m. Dorothy DE LA FORD
m. Dorothy DE LA FORD