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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Robert De INSULA
  2. Ralph De INSULA

Bibliography
  1. Bevan, Rosie, Corrections to K. S. B. Keats-Rohan's Domesday Series, Volume II: Domesday Descendants. Version 7, 25 Sep 2005. Available at http://www.fmg.ac/Projects/Domesday/ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Bevan DD++ p[0-9]*].
  2. Phillips, Chris, Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++ .*].
  3. Phillips, Chris, Ancestry of Robert de Insula, part 3. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/18/2004. Subject: Re: Apparent CP/DD Conflict (de Lisle). Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/TWhHJ0CoFK4/m/D5hBq9Kyg24J. Author address: cgp100 at cgp100 dot dabsol dot co dot uk. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 8/18/2004-121730].
  4. Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
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  6. Bevan, Rosie, Ancestry of Robert de Insula, part 2. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/18/2004. Subject: Re: Apparent CP/DD Conflict (de Lisle), part 2. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/sQOSH3ahNCc/m/97yHoKMJb8sJ. Author address: rbevan at paradise dot net dot nz. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-065055].

Sources for birth and parent Information
father:
[Ref: CP++ Lisle 8/26/2004 (CP VIII p48f)]
Sources for death Information
date:
abt 1159 [Ref: CP++ Lisle 8/26/2004 (CP VIII p48f)]
Sources with Information about marriage to (Unk Dau)
names:
Ralph de INSULA & dau (or kinswoman) of Robert chamberlain of the Earl of Richmond [Ref: Bevan DD++ p200, CP++ Lisle 8/26/2004 (CP VIII p48f), Chris Phillips SGM 8/18/2004-121730, Rosie Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-064832, Rosie Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-065055],
child:
[Ref: CP++ Lisle 8/26/2004 (CP VIII p48f)]
Research Notes:
Chamberlain and steward of the bishop of Ely [Ref: Bevan DD++ p200, CP++ Lisle 8/26/2004 (CP VIII p48f), Chris Phillips SGM 8/18/2004-121730, Rosie Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-064832, Rosie Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-065055]

a number of lands later held by the Lisles had originally been held, in the mid 12th century, by a certain Ralph, variously described as Ralph fitz Olaf, Ralph the steward (dapifer) of the bishop of Ely, or Ralph the chamberlain of the bishop of Ely [E. Miller, The Abbey and Bishopric of Ely, pp. 170-173, 180 (1951); Victoria County History, Cambridgeshire, vol. 4, p. 137]. Ralph occurs holding lands formerly of the king in Great Wilbraham, Cambridgeshire, between 1155 and 1158 [Great Rolls of the Pipe 2, 3 and 4 Henry II, pp. 15, 96, 165]. After Ralph's death, his son Robert received charters of confirmation from the bishop and prior of Ely [British Library, Cotton MS Claudius C xi, ff. 338v, 339]. These charters must date from soon after Ralph's disappearance from the pipe roll in 1158 (the prior's is certainly before 1163, while the bishop's is witnessed by William the archdeacon, whose death J. Bentham [History and Antiquities of the Conventual and Cathedral Church of Ely, p. 272 (1771)]
places around 1160). So Ralph's tenure at Great Wilbraham was probably brought to an end by his death, in which case he would have died in late 1158 or in 1159. [Ref: CP++ Lisle 8/26/2004 (CP VIII p69)]

given lands at Wilbraham belonging to the fee of the chamberlain of the earl of Richmond; Ralph's wife was presumably a daughter or kinswoman of Robert the Chamberlain of the Honour of Richmond [Ref: Bevan DD++ p200, Chris Phillips SGM 8/18/2004-121730, Rosie Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-064832, Rosie Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-065055]



Pedigree of Ralph De INSULA
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Ralph De INSULA



Descendants of Ralph De INSULA
1. Ralph De INSULA m. (Unk Dau)
m. (Unk Dau) father: Robert CAMERARIUS, Chamberlain Of The Earl Of R

2nd generation

2. Robert De INSULA m. Galiena BLUND
m. Galiena BLUND father: William BLUND, Lord Of Ashfield mother: (Unk Dau) De MOUNTCHESNEY

3rd generation

4. Robert De INSULA m. (Unk Dau) Fitz RALPH
m. (Unk Dau) Fitz RALPH father: Ralph Fitz ROGER

4th generation

5. Robert De INSULA m1. Sarah De AUNUS m2. Rose De WAHULL
m. Sarah De AUNUS father: Eborard De AUNUS
m. Rose De WAHULL father: Simon De WAHULL, Baron Of Odell mother: Gundrada De STUTEVILLE
6. Cassandra De INSULA m. Richard De ARGENTEIN
m. Richard De ARGENTEIN father: Reginald De ARGENTEIN

5th generation

7. Robert De LISLE m. Alice FITZ GEROLD
m. Alice FITZ GEROLD father: Henry FITZ GEROLD mother: Ermentrude TALBOT
8. Giles De ARGENTINE m. Margery AIGUILLON
m. Margery AIGUILLON father: Robert AGUILLON mother: Margery De FRESNEY