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Family:
Children:
  1. Isabel De SAY Death: 1199

Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 03 Canonteigh-Cutts. London: St Catherine Press, 1913. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 3 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo03coka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP III [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
father:
[Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p679, Sanders Baronies p112],
brother:
Henry de SAY [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p679]
Sources for death Information
date:
before 1160 [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p679]
living 1145 [Ref: Sanders Baronies p113(2)]
Sources with Information about marriage to unknown
names:
[Ref: CP V p392],
child:
[Ref: CP III p335 (with corr in XIV p194), CP X AppJ p113 (with corr in XIV p547), CP++ Fitzalan 12/31/2006 (CP V p392), Foljambe Cornewall p30, Keats-Rohan DD p679, Keats-Rohan DD p680, Keats-Rohan DD p762, Sanders Baronies p113]
Research Notes:
inherited Barony of Clun from brother [Ref: Sanders Baronies p112]

brother and successor c.1140 of Henry de Say of Clun [Ref: Keats-Rohan Baronies++ p3]

Lordship of Clun in Shropshire belonged, temp. Stephen, to Ellis de Say [Ref: CP III p335 (with corr in XIV p194)]

1145: mentioned with daughter Isabel in a document from Lilleshall abbey, Salop [Ref: Sanders Baronies p113(2)]

1166: said to hold lands of Hugh de Lacy [Ref: Sanders Baronies p113(2)]



Pedigree of Elias De SAY, Baron Of Clun
          /-----(Unk) De SAY
 /-----Robert Picot De Say, Baron Of Clun
Elias De SAY, Baron Of Clun
 \-----Adeloia



Descendants of Elias De SAY, Baron Of Clun
1. Elias De SAY, Baron Of Clun m.

2nd generation

2. Isabel De SAY m1. William FITZALAN, Baron Of Oswestry m2. Geoffrey De VERE m3. William De BOTEREL
m. William FITZALAN, Baron Of Oswestry father: Alan FITZ FLEALD mother: Avelina De HESDIN
m. Geoffrey De VERE father: Alberic II De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham mother: Adeliza De CLARE
m. William De BOTEREL father: William BOTEREL mother: Alice CORBET

3rd generation

3. William FITZALAN, Baron Of Oswestry m. (Unk Dau) De LACY
m. (Unk Dau) De LACY father: Hugh De LACY, Baron Of Weobley mother: Roheis De MONMOUTH

4th generation

8. John FITZALAN, Baron Of Oswestry m1. Isabel D'AUBIGNY m2. Hawise De BLANCMINSTER
m. Isabel D'AUBIGNY father: William D'AUBIGNY, Earl Of Arundel mother: Mabel Of Chester
m. Hawise De BLANCMINSTER

5th generation

9. Sir John FITZALAN, Earl Of Arundel m. Maud De VERDUN
m. Maud De VERDUN father: Theobald Le BOTELER mother: Rohese De VERDUN