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    Person Info
  • Name: Joan SOOR
  • Sex: F


  • Parents:

Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. John ARUNDELL
  2. Ralf ARUNDELL
  3. Jane ARUNDELL

Bibliography
  1. Howard, J Jacoson, Sir Henry Lawson, Genealogical Collections Illustrating the History of Roman Catholic Families of England. Based on the Lawson Manuscript. London: private printing, 1887-92. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/film/007955230, images 1059-1117, images 1122-1153, film/007562061, images 1-1206, film/007955230, images 1158-1180. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Howard RomCathEng p[0-9]*].
  2. Staley, Louise, Renfrey Arundel and Alice Lanherne. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 12/26/2004. Subject: Arundell of Lanherne 1 of 4. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/6T7u14gv8VU/m/a0R6fwqpSsEJ. Author address: caramut at bigpond dot com dot au. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Louise Staley SGM 12/26/2004-000217].

Sources for birth and parent Information
note:
From the dates it seems as if John Soor and Rosea Pridias can be ruled out as the parents of Joan [Ref: Louise Staley SGM 12/26/2004-000217]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
father:
John de la BERE of Talvern, com. Somers (#263545) [Ref: Howard RomCathEng p151]
John le Sor of Talvern (#263545) [Ref: Howard RomCathEng p221]
Sources with Information about marriage to John ARUNDELL
child:
[Ref: Howard RomCathEng p221, Louise Staley SGM 12/26/2004-000217]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
John ARUNDELL (#263550) [Ref: Howard RomCathEng p151]
Research Notes:
either daughter of Ralph SOOR (Visitation of Cornwall, and Wardour Muniments) or John SOOR (Gen Coll of Roman Catholic Families of England) [Ref: Louise Staley SGM 12/26/2004-000217]

Gen Coll notes that "the charters of the Sor family at Wardour give no proof of this marriage" [Ref: Louise Staley SGM 12/26/2004-000217]

will of Rosea, wife of John le Sor, dated 4 Aug 1342 leaves all goods for the marriages of her daughters Joan, Isabel, Margaret, Joan, and Alice. Executor to be John le SOOR, her lord and husband [Ref: Louise Staley SGM 12/26/2004-000217]

the problem with this will as evidence that Joan SOOR was a daughter of John SOOR and Rosea PRIDIAS is that John ARUNDEL died 1306-09 yet Rosea's will of 1342 suggests her daughters were unmarried then. None of the land held by Joan in dower is from the Soor inheritance. [Ref: Louise Staley SGM 12/26/2004-000217]

None of the land held by Joan in dower is from the Soor inheritance. [Ref: Louise Staley SGM 12/26/2004-000217]

The Soor inheritance of Tolverne and Prospidnick Manors was not held by the Arundells until the early 15th century, 70 years after Joan Soor was last known to be alive. The timing of the inheritance suggests it may have come through the Lambournes rather than straight frm the Soors. [Ref: Louise Staley SGM 12/26/2004-000217]

From the dates it seems as if John SOOR and Rosea PRIDIAS can be ruled out as the parents of Joan. [Ref: Howard RomCathEng p151]



Pedigree of Joan SOOR
Joan SOOR



Descendants of Joan SOOR
1. Joan SOOR m. John ARUNDELL
m. John ARUNDELL father: Ralph ARUNDELL mother: Eva RUPE

2nd generation

2. John ARUNDELL m. Isabella De La BERE
m. Isabella De La BERE father: John De La BERE

3rd generation

5. John ARUNDELL m1. Elizabeth CARMINOW m2. Isabella MULTON
m. Elizabeth CARMINOW father: Sir Oliver CARMINOW mother: Elizabeth POMEROY
m. Isabella MULTON father: Sir Thomas MULTON

4th generation

6. Sir John ARUNDEL m. Joan LUSCOTE
m. Joan LUSCOTE father: Sir William LUSCOTE

5th generation

9. Sir John ARUNDEL m1. Margaret TRESILIAN m2. Annora LAMBOURNE
m. Margaret TRESILIAN father: Sir Robert TRESILIAN mother: Emeline HIWISHE
m. Annora LAMBOURNE father: Sir William LAMBOURNE mother: Joan LANHADRON