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Marriage: Children:
  1. Ellak Birth: 1 Death: Abt 454

Marriage: Children:
  1. Dengizik Death: 469
  2. Ernak Birth: 7

Bibliography
  1. Kirk, Marshall, Attila the Hun. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/22/1998. Subject: Magyar kings to Attila the Hun. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/xE0VsMymzfc/m/9q08YfNLOlgJ. Author address: kennwalrus at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Marshall Kirk SGM 6/22/1998].
  2. Bodine, Ronny, Attila the Hun. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 11/1/1996. Subject: Attila the Hun. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/kxW38O_K7ms/m/WNSEc6TSHJUJ. Author address: rbodine996 at AOL dot COM. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Ronny Bodine SGM 11/1/1996].
  3. Wagner, Anthony, Pedigree and Progress, Essays in the Genealogical Interpretation of History, London, Philmore, 1975. Rutgers Alex CS4.W33. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Wagner PedigreeProgress #[0-9]*].

Sources with Information about marriage to Julia Grata Honoria
date:
offered apparently not accepted [Ref: Wagner PedigreeProgress #25]
Sources with Information about marriage to Arykan
child:
[Ref: Ronny Bodine SGM 11/1/1996]
Sources with Information about marriage to Kreka
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[Ref: Ronny Bodine SGM 11/1/1996]
Research Notes:
FWIW, Settipani's reconstruction of Charlemagne's ancestry suggests a somewhat more plausible descent from Attila. (More plausible, that is, on grounds of overall historical situation, and relative temporal contiguity.) According to S., one of C.'s ancestresses is Austricusa, apparently attested as a Gepid princess. What isn't attested is which Gepid king was her father; it has been suggested, on chronological grounds, that it was Elemund. The 6th-century Gepid kings apparently claimed descent from the first Gepid king, Ardaric, who had initially served (in the vicinity of 450) as a henchman of Attila; it was also claimed that Ardaric had married a daughter of Attila (presumably one of many, as Attila seems to have been a polygamist). It seems that at least some royal Gepids of the 5th century claimed descent from that marriage. (My apologies for the vagueness of this acount; partly due to incompleteness of detail in the originals, partly to the fact that I recount from memory.)
As for the claim on the part of the Magyar kings to descend from Attila: I imagine that the "Hun-" in "Hungary" *does* have something to do with THE Huns (though my world wouldn't crumple like tinfoil if I were shown to be wrong in this presumption). However, most scholars seem to have concluded, after long and fierce dispute, that the Magyars were much later invaders who swept away what remnant of the Huns remained. This in itself would hardly convince me, but, more to the point, I've seen the claimed pedigree, *somewhere*, and (as I recall) it fails the first test in assessing any such document: the number of generations claimed to link the earliest (historically attested, and chronologically placeable) Magyar kings with Attila was far too few. [Ref: Marshall Kirk SGM 6/22/1998]



Pedigree of Attila The Hun
Attila The Hun



Descendants of Attila The Hun
1. Attila The Hun m1. Julia Grata Honoria m2. Arykan m3. Kreka
m. Julia Grata Honoria father: Constantius III Emperor Of The West mother: Galla Placidia
m. Arykan
m. Kreka