Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- Walter De CORMEILLES, Baron Of Tarrington Death: Abt 1203
Bibliography
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Bevan, Rosie, Corrections to K. S. B. Keats-Rohan's Domesday Series, Volume II: Domesday Descendants. Version 7, 25 Sep 2005. Available at http://www.fmg.ac/Projects/Domesday/ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Bevan DD++ p[0-9]*].
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Phillips, Chris, Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++ .*].
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Phillips, Chris, Ancestry of Robert de Insula, part 3. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/18/2004. Subject: Re: Apparent CP/DD Conflict (de Lisle). Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/TWhHJ0CoFK4/m/D5hBq9Kyg24J. Author address: cgp100 at cgp100 dot dabsol dot co dot uk. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 8/18/2004-121730].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
- father:
- [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p200, Keats-Rohan DD p410]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- date:
- second marriage of Beatrice [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p200],
- names:
- Robert de Lisle & Beatrice [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p200],
- note:
- Robert de L'Isle was never married to Beatrice [Ref: Bevan DD++ p200,
Chris Phillips SGM 8/18/2004-121730, Rosie Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-064832, Rosie
Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-065055]
Sources with Information about marriage to Richard De CORMEILLES, Baron Of Tarrington
- date:
- first marriage of Beatrice [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p200],
- names:
- [Ref: CP++ Lisle 8/26/2004 (CP VIII p48f), Keats-Rohan DD p410],
- child:
- [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p411, Sanders Baronies p86]
Research Notes:
eventual coheiress of Robert the Chamberlain of Richmond [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD
p410]
said to have married secondly Robert de L'Isle (Keats-Rohan DD p200). Robert
de L'Isle was never married to Beatrice. Apart from the chronological
difficulty, charter evidence shows that it was an ancestor of the de L'Isles,
Ralph fitz Olaf, chamberlain of the bishop of Ely, who was given lands at
Wilbraham, with his wife, belonging to the fee of the chamberlain of the earl
of Richmond [Ref: Bevan DD++ p200, Rosie Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-064832, Rosie
Bevan SGM 8/18/2004-065055]
Farrer's account, here and earlier in Feudal Cambridgeshire, seems to be the
origin of the false idea that a Robert de Lisle married Beatrice de
Cormeilles. Beatrice was one of the daughters of Robert, chamberlain of the
earl of Richmond.
Farrer also takes a document suggesting that a Robert de Insula was the
grandson of one Ralph the steward (dapifer), and decides that because he was
the recipient of a grant from Conan count of Brittany, he must have been
Conan's own steward (or sewer).
He then welds these two errors into a coherent whole by changing the name
of Beatrice's father to Ralph (from Robert) and by identifying the resulting
"Ralph the chamberlain" with "Ralph the steward". [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM
8/18/2004-121730]
Pedigree of Beatrice
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Odo CAMERARIUS, Chamberlain Of The Earl Of R
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Robert CAMERARIUS, Chamberlain Of The Earl Of R
Beatrice
Descendants of Beatrice
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