Family:
Bibliography
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Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
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Round, J Horace, Origin of the Comyns, Jul 1904, In The Ancestor: Quarterly Review of County and Family History, Number 10, Jul 1904. Available at https://archive.org/details/ancestorquarterl10londuoft.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Round Comyn p[0-9]*].
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Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP I p[0-9]*].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- brother:
- unk father of Richard COMYN [Ref: Round Comyn p108]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- father:
- Robert de COMYN (#14723) [Ref: Round Comyn p111 (Lyons pedigree)]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- occ 1155 [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p243]
Research Notes:
Chancellor to David I [Ref: Round Comyn p108, SP I p503 (but deleted by corr
in IX p30)]
one time Chancellor to David I [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p243]
had been a clerk of Geoffrey, Bishop of Durham, before Geoffrey's accession to
that see in 1133; William's first appearance as chancellor was about that
time; Bishop Geoffrey, who had trained William, had been King Henry's
chancellor since 1123 [Ref: Round Comyn p108]
1138: accompanied David to the 'Battle of the Standard'; William was captured
and kept prisoner at Durham till released from captivity as a clerk by the
Papal Legate [Ref: Round Comyn p109]
1140s: sought unsuccessfully to become Bishop of Durham [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD
p243]
1142: presented to the bishopric of Durham, but not getting the consent of the
chapter he held it by force for more than three years, whenhis nephew William
was slain in the struggle. This so much affected him that he entered into a
compromise with his opponents and gave up the bishopric, while the castle and
honours of Northallerton were granted to another nephew, and he himself
retired to Scotland [Ref: SP I p503 (open to serious question-- deleted by
corr in IX p30)]
Bishop Geoffrey died at Rogation-tide 1141, and William, supported by the
Scottish king, obtained possession of the castle. With the help of certain
barons of the see he set himself to obtain the bishopric, and would actually
have been given the ring and staff by the empress on Midsummer Day in London,
had not the rising of the citizens sent them forth in flight. Then, when the
empress fled from Winchester, the peripatetic chancellor was again in flight
and met his royal master, a fugative like himself, at Durham. David, on behalf
of the empress, installed him there as custos, and thenceforth the troubles of
the times enabled him to hold at least the temporalities of the see, not as
Lyon states 'for more than three years' from 1142, but from 1141 to 1144.
[Ref: Round Comyn p109]
The traditional origin of the Comyns given by Sir Robert Douglas and other
writers, and followed in this article, seems open to serious question. All
that can safely be said is probably this -- the first of the family known in
Scotland was William the Chancellor. He had three nephews, sons of a brother
whose name is uncertain: (1) William, (2) Richard, (3) Walter [Ref: SP I p504
(with corr in IX p30)]
Lyon's pedigree ..a very feast of errors... in the first place, why is Earl
Robert made father to the chancellor? And why is he styled Robert de Comyn?
The answer to the first appears to be that the alleged paternity is but an
instance of the reprehensible practice, formerly common enough, of seeking a
progenitor in any one of sufficient eminence whose name was or seemed to be
that of the family into which he was pitchforked by the pedigree-maker.
Orderic styled him 'Robert de Cuminis' while Symeon of Durham made him Robert
'cognomento Cumin' Why then style him 'de Comyn'?
The entire pedigree of three generations, marriages, and all, crumbles into
dust. Whence then can it have been derived? We observe that it suspiciously
resembles that which is given by Douglas [Ref: Round Comyn p111 (Lyons
pedigree)]
1153: joined the household of Theobald archbishop of Canterbury, then
joined that of Duke Henry [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p243]
1154-5: Sheriff of Worcestershire [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p243]
Pedigree of William De COMYN, Chancellor
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(Unk) De COMYN
William De COMYN, Chancellor
Descendants of William De COMYN, Chancellor