Corrections to Complete Peerage (15 volume set, published 1910-1998)
These are corrections that have been previously noted in discussions in Usenet group/mailing list soc.genealogy.medieval/GEN-MEDIEVAL.
CP I p199 Argyll II 1493 2. Archibald (CAMPBELL), Earl of Argyll "… He m. Elizabeth, 1st da. of John (STEWART), 1st Earl of Lennox [S], by Margaret, da. of Alexander (MONTGOMERY), 1st Lord Montgomery [S]."
Margaret, wife of John STEWART, 1st Earl of Lennox, was daughter of Alexander MONTGOMERIE, Master of Montgomery, son and heir apparent of Alexander, 1st Lord Montgomery. This was shown by Andrew B.W.MacEwen in his article "Seven Scottish Countesses I - Margaret Montgomery, Countess of Lennox" which appeared in The Genealogist vol 11 pp176-183 in 1997. It was also posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 11/14/2008
Margaret MONTGOMERIE d/o Alexander MONTGOMERIE, Master Of Montgomerie & Elizabeth HEPBURN b. 1 d. After 30 May 1493 m. Before 20 Jul 1461 John STEWART, Earl Of Lennox
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father: Alexander MONTGOMERY [Ref: CP I p199] (also CP VII p596)
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parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/14/2008-094531]
parents: [Ref: MacEwen 7Countesses Lennox p183]
parents: [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v04-145 (with corr in 12-89)]
father: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p665]
father: [Ref: SP V p348]
Alexander MONTGOMERIE, Lord Montgomerie & Margaret BOYD m.
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child: Margaret MONTGOMERIE wife of John Earl of Lennox [Ref: CP I p199] (also CP VII p596)
CP I p308 Atholl XIV 1335 to 1369. 12. David (of Strathbogie), Earl of Atholl[S? or E?] "… He d.s.p.m., 10 Oct 1369 aged 48, when any English Barony of Strathbogie (and any right to an Earldom of Atholl as far as created by the English writ of summons in 1321) fell into abeyance(e), …" Note (e): "He left 2 daughters his coheirs. (1) Elizabeth. … She m., 1stly, in 1376 or 1377, Sir Thomas Percy (2nd s. of Henry, 1st Earl of Northumberland), who d. in Spain about 1388. … Her s. and h., Sir Henry Percy, "of Atholl," d. 25 Oct. 1432, leaving 2 daughters his coheirs. (i) Elizabeth, … (ii) Margery, who m., 1stly, Henry, 6th Lord Grey of Codnor … She m. 2ndly, Sir Richard VEER [yr. s. of John, 12th Earl of Oxford]."
Sir Richard de VERE who married Margaret PERCY was a younger son of Richard, 11th Earl of Oxford, and brother of John, 12th Earl of Oxford. This was shown in GEN-MEDIEVAL posting by Douglas Richardson on 12/14/2011.
Sir Richard De VERE s/o Richard De VERE, K.G., Earl of Oxford & Alice SERGEAUX d. After 21 Dec 1466 m. Abt 3 Dec 1445 Margaret PERCY
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father: John de VERE 12th Earl [Ref: CP I p308(e)] (also CP VI p130)
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 12/14/2011-193845]
John VERE, Earl Of Oxford & Elizabeth HOWARD, Baroness Plaiz m. Abt Jun 1425
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child: Richard De VERE [Ref: CP I p308(e)] (also CP VI p130)
CP I p326 Aton I 1371 1. Sir William ATON "… He d.s.p.m.s between 29 Sep and Mar 1388/9 (corr in XIV p49). He let 3 daughters and coheirs. … (3) Elizabeth, formerly wife of Sir William PLAYCE, but then wife of Sir John CONYERS… any hereditary Barony, that may be held to have existed, is in abeyance(d)." Note (d): "(1) Anastasia … (3) Elizabeth left a s. and h. Sir William PLAYCE (living 30 Mar 1396), who was father of Robert PLACE, who, by his wife Katherine, da. and h. of Halnath de Halnaby, was ancestor of the family of Place of Halnaby, co York."
William PLACE, son of Sir William PLAYCE and Elizabeth, had a sole daughter Elizabeth, who married an unknown HASTINGS and d.s.p. This was shown by John Watson in Gen-MEDIEVAL posting of 1/30/2015. The Robert PLACE who married Katherine HALNABY was son of William PLACE of Scalby, Yorkshire, and Emma SLITHOLME, as shown by Douglas Richardson on GEN-MEDIEVAL 1/11/2004.
Sir Robert PLAYCE s/o William PLAYCE & Emma SLITHOLME d. Abt 1427 m. Katherine De HALNABY
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father: Sir William PLAYCE [Ref: CP I p326(d)]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 1/11/2004-162010]
William PLAYCE & Margaret De DAGWORTH m.
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child: Robert PLAYCE [Ref: CP I p326(d)]
CP I p327 Aubigny 1. Sir John STEWART, "of Darnley, co Renfrew, s. and h. of Sir Alexander STEWART, of the same (who d. before 5 May 1404), by his 1st wife, whose name is unknown."
The wife of Alexander STEWART was Janet KEITH, as shown by John Ravilious in a posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 4/27/2005. This is also shown in Neil Thompson's Ancestry of Charles II v12p83.
Sir John STEWART, Seigneur Of Aubigny s/o Sir Alexander STEWART & Janet KEITH [CP:I-327] b. Abt 1384 d. 12 Feb 1428/9 Battle Of Herrings, Rouvray u. Cathedral Of Orleans m. Abt 23 Sep 1406 Elizabeth LENNOX
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mother: unk first wife [Ref: CP I p327]
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note: neither Sir Alexander nor his son, Alexander of Galston, married a Turnbull, as is often stated [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v23-73]
parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 4/27/2005-211251]
parents: [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v12-83]
Sir Alexander STEWART & (Unk) TURNBULL m. 1
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child: Sir John STEWART [Ref: CP I p327]
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note: neither Sir Alexander nor his son, Alexander of Galston, married a Turnbull, as is often stated [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v23-73]
CP I p400 Banbury Earldom I 1626. 1. William KNOLLYS, "… 2nd s. but h. male of Sir Francis KNOLLYS, K.G., by Katherine (corr in XIV p62), sister of Henry, Lord Hundson, da. of William CARY (by Mary, sister of Anne BOLEYN, Queen of Henry VIII), …"
Whether Katherine was daughter of William CARY or of Henry VIII is disputed. Anthony Hoskins published an article in Genealogists' Magazine March 1997, "Circumstantial evidence indicates a high probability that Henry VIII fathered two children by Mary Boleyn …" and posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 10/28/2008. The theory is far from proved, but deserves to be mentioned.
Katherine CARY d/o Henry VIII TUDOR, King Of England & Mary BOLEYN [AR:1-37] b. Abt 1524 d. 15 Jan 1568/9 Hampton Court u. St Edmunds Chapel, Westminster Abbey m. 26 Apr 1540 Sir Francis KNOLLYS, K.G.
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father: William CARY [Ref: CP I p400] (also CP V p140)
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parents: [Ref: Hoskins CareyChildren p2]
parents: [Ref: Tony Hoskins SGM 10/28/2008-122437]
William CARY & Mary BOLEYN m. 4 Feb 1519/20
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child: Katherine CARY [Ref: CP I p400] (also CP V p140)
CP II p3 Basset III 1343 to 1390. 3. Ralph (BASSET), Lord Basset of Drayton, "… He d.s.p., 10 May 1390. … when the Barony became dormant, or, possibly, fell into abeyance between the heirs of his two great aunts.(f)" Note(f): "The heirship of the last Lord is somewhat doubtful. As to many of the estates the heir was found to be, according to one inq., Thomas, Earl of Stafford, s. of Hugh, s. of Ralph, s. of Margaret BASSET, sister to the grandfather of the deceased; but, according to another inq., the heirs were (1) the said Earl of Stafford and (2) Alice, wife of William CHAWORTH, descended from Maud, a sister of the said Margaret, who m. Sir William HERRIZ. These findings were confirmed by another inq. (1403), 4 Henry IV, on the death of Joan, widow o the last Lord Basset.…"
Maud BASSET who married William HERRIZ was not sister of Matilda BASSET, rather she was two generations earlier in the Basset family. This was stated by Douglas Richardson in a GEN-MEDIEVAL posting on 10/21/1999 (though he provided no sources). This was also shown by Trevor Foulds in _Thurgarton Cartulary_ published in 1994, on page clv (with numerous citations), speifically that she was sister of Ralph BASSET who lived 1211-1265.
Maud BASSET d/o Ralph BASSET & m. Sir William HERRITZ
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parents: Ralph BASSET & Hawise [Ref: CP II p3(f)]
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brother: Ralph Basset, 2nd Lord Basset [Ref: CP II p3(f)]
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father: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/21/1999-B]
Ralph BASSET, Lord Basset Of Drayton & Hawise Le DESPENSER m.
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child: Maud wife of Thomas HERRITZ [Ref: CP II p3(f)]
CP II p8 Basset Barony by Writ 1371 to 1378. 5. Ralph BASSET, s. and h., "… He m., 2ndly, Alice, da. of John DERBY. He d.s.p.m., … His widow, who m. Sir Robert TUCHET, and afterwards Sir Anketine MALLORY, …"
Alice, daughter of John DRIBY, married (1) Sir Robert TUCHET, (2) Sir Ralph BASSET, Lord Basset of Sapcote, (3) Sir Anketil MALLORY. Paul Reed provided the order of her marriages in a posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 6/21/1999.
Sir Robert TOCHET & Alice De DRIBY m. Abt 1360
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date: second marriage of Alice [Ref: CP II p8]
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date: first marriage of Alice [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/21/1999]
CP II p18 Bath IV 1561. 3. William (BOURCHIER), Earl of Bath, &c, "… He m., 2ndly, 7 Aug. 1583, at St Marys Major's, Exeter, Elizabeth, 2nd da. of Francis (RUSSELL), 2nd Earl of Bedford, by Elizabeth, da. and h. of Henry LONG, of Shengay, co. Cambridge. …"
The second wife of William, 3rd Earl of Bath, was Elizabeth, daughter of Francis RUSSELL and Margaret St JOHN. This update was given by Hal Bradley in a posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 4/8/2008. Elizabeth LONG was the wife of William RUSSELL, brother of Elizabeth (CP II p78 (with corr in XIV p80)).
Elizabeth RUSSELL d/o Francis RUSSELL, K.G., Earl of Bedford & Margaret St JOHN d. 24 Mar 1605 u. 25 Mar 1605 Tawstock m. 7 Aug 1583 St Marys Majors, Exeter William BOURCHIER, Earl of Bath
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mother: Elizabeth LONG [Ref: CP II p18]
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parents: [Ref: Hal Bradley SGM 4/26/2008-134433]
Francis RUSSELL, K.G., Earl of Bedford & Margaret St JOHN m. Abt 1546
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names: Francis RUSSELL & Elizabeth LONG [Ref: CP II p18]
William RUSSELL, Lord Russell of Thronhaugh & Elizabeth LONG m. 18 Feb 1584/5 Watford
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names: Francis RUSSELL & Elizabeth LONG [Ref: CP II p18]
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child: Elizabeth RUSSELL [Ref: CP II p18]
CP II p45 Beauchamp of Kidderminster Barony (first cr. By Patent) I 1387 to 1388. 1. John BEAUCHAMP, "s. and h. of Richard B., of Holt, co Worcester, by Eustache, suc. his father in 1327 … being then eight years old."
John BEAUCHAMP, 1st Lord Beauchamp of Kidderminster, was grandson of Richard Beauchamp of Holt, being son of the 1st Lord Beauchamp's son John and Isabel ATWOOD. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 9/5/2003
Sir John De BEAUCHAMP, Lord Beauchamp of Kidderm s/o Sir John De BEAUCHAMP & Isabel ATTWOOD [CP:II-45, AR:197-31] d. 12 Mar 1387/8 Tower Hill u. Worcester Cathedral m. Before 31 Oct 1370 Joan FITZWITH
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date: age 8 in 1327 [Ref: CP II p45]
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parents: Richard Beauchamp & Eustache [Ref: CP II p45]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/5/2003-235806]
Richard De BEAUCHAMP & Eustache m.
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child: John Beauchamp [Ref: CP II p45]
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child: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/5/2003-235806]
CP II p46 Beauchamp of Powick Barony I 1447. 1. John BEAUCHAMP, "3rd s. of Sir William B.,(f) of Powick, co. Worcester, and of Alcester, co Warwick, (m. before Mar. 1414/5, and d. before 1431) by Catherine, da. and coh. of Sir Gerard UFFLETTE. …" Note (f): This Sir William was s. and h. of John, who d. between 1378 and 1401, by Elizabeth, who d. 1411; which John …"
William BEAUCHAMP was son of John BEAUCHAMP by his first wife, Joan, daughter of John, 2nd Lord Cherleton by Maud, daughter of Roger de MORTIMER, 1st Earl of March. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 10/21/2013.
Sir William De BEAUCHAMP s/o Sir John De BEAUCHAMP & Joan CHERLETON [AR:84-32] d. Abt 29 Sep 1420 m. Before 29 Jun 1392 Catharine De USFLETE
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mother: Elizabeth , 2nd wife of Sir John [Ref: CP II p46(f)]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/21/2013-135317]
Sir John De BEAUCHAMP & Elizabeth St. JOHN m. Before 22 Sep 1374
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child: Sir William BEAUCHAMP [Ref: CP II p46(f)]
CP II p49 Beauchamp (of Somerset) Barony by Writ II 1336. 2. John (BEAUCHAMP), Lord Beauchamp, "2nd, but 1st surv(c) s. and h., …" Note (c): "His elder br., William, d.v.p."
William was a younger son, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 2/23/2017. Whether John was the second son, and whether William d.v.p is not known.
Sir William BEAUCHAMP s/o Sir John BEAUCHAMP, Lord Beauchamp Of Somerset & Joan CHENDUIT b. 2 d. After 1330
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date: first son [Ref: CP II p49(c)]
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date: v.p [Ref: CP II p49(c)]
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date: younger son [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 2/23/2017-193956]
date: living 1331 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 2/23/2017-193956]
CP II p50 Beauchamp (of Somerset) III 1343 to 1361. 3. John (BEAUCHAMP), Lord Beauchamp, "… He d.s.p., 8 Oct 1361, aged 31, when any Barony descendible to heirs general, which may be held to have existed, would have fallen (according to modern doctrine) into abeyance betweenhis sisters or their issue.(a)" Note (a): "The coheirs were (1) Cicely, his elder sister, … who m., 1stly, Sir Roger SEYMOUR, and 2ndly, before 14 Sep 1368 (corr in XIV p76) (--) TURBERVILLE, having issue by both. …"
Cecily married 1stly Sir Gilbert TURBERVILLE, and 2ndly Sir Roger SEYMOUR. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Paul Reed on 4/16/2004, and was previously published in his article on the Bernard family in 1998 (TAG v73 (Oct 1998), pp181-193 and 294-311), and subsequently in articles on the St Maur family in 2008 (Foundations for Medieval Genealogy v2 p390-442. and Seymour family in 2010 Foundations for Medieval Genealogy v3 p217-266.
Sir Roger SEYMOUR & Cecily BEAUCHAMP m. Abt 1348
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date: first marriage of Cecily [Ref: CP II p50(a)]
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date: abt 1347-8 [Ref: Reed StMAUR p422]
date: not long after Aug 1347 [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 4/16/2004-034758]
date: second marriage of Cecily [Ref: Reed Bernard p309]
date: second marriage of Cecily [Ref: Reed SEYMOUR p217]
CP II p76 Bedford (County) Earldom IV. 1555. 2. Francis (RUSSELL), Earl of Bedford, &c, "… He m., 1stly, Margaret, widow of Sir John GOSTWICK, sister of Oliver, 1st Lord St John, and da. of Sir John St JOHN, of Bletsoe, Beds …"
Margaret's first marriage was to William GOSTWICK, not John. This was shown by Paul Reed in a posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 12/21/2002. This also corrects CP XI p239.
William GOSTWICK & Margaret St JOHN m. 1
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names: Sir John GOSTWICK & Margaret St JOHN [Ref: CP II p76] (also CP XI p239)
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date: first marriage of Margaret [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 12/21/2002-234551]
Sir John GOSTWICK & (unk-wife) m.
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names: Sir John GOSTWICK & Margaret St JOHN [Ref: CP II p76] (also CP XI p239)
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child: [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 12/21/2002-234551]
CP II p127 Berkeley VII 1220. 4. Thomas De BERKELEY, feudal Lord of Berkeley, "… He m., about 1217, Joan, da. of Sir Ralph De SOMERY, of Dudley, co. Worcester, by Margaret, sister of William (MARSHAL), Earl of Pembroke, and da. of John Fitz Gilbert, styled also John the Marshal (corr in XIV p87)."
Margaret, wife of Sir Ralph De SOMERY, was daughter of William Le GRAS by a sister of William MARSHAL. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 3/27/2012
Margaret Le GROS d/o William Le GROS & (Unk dau) Marshall d. After 14 Jun 1247 m. Before 1194 Sir Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m2. Before 1221 Maurice De Ghent, Baron Of Beverstone
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father: John Fitz Gilbert [Ref: CP II p127 (with corr in XIV p87)] (see also CP XII/1 p110)
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brother: William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke [Ref: CP II p127] (see also CP XII/1 p110)
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parents: William Le GRAS & sister of William Marshal [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/27/2012-155538]
parents: John Fitz Gilbert (#10440) & Sibyl de Salisbury (#10441) [Ref: CP XII/1 p110]
brother: William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke [Ref: CP XII/1 p110]
parents: William Le GRAS & sister of William Marshal [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/27/2012-155538]
John Fitz GILBERT The Marshal & Sibyl De SALISBURY m. After 1141
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child: Margaret wife of Ralph de Somery [Ref: CP II p127 (with corr in XIV p87)] (also CP XII/1 p110)
CP II p162 Bertram Sir Roger BERTRAM, "of Mitford, Northumberland, … He left an old child, Agnes, … She d.s.p, … when the descendants of her father's 4 sisters were found to be his heirs. … (3) Elias de PENULBURY or PENBURY, of Pendlebury, co. Lancaser, s. and h. of Robert P. (with corr in XIV p90), of the same, by Christian, the 3rd sister (she m., 2ndly Sir Robert de ROS, of Wark, who d. in 1275)."
Christian BERTRAM married, 1stly, in or before 1241, William de ROS, who d.v.p (so before 1270), and 2ndly, before 1291, Robert PENBURY. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 07/29/2005
Robert De PENBURY & Christian BERTRAM m. Before 1291
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date: first marriage of Christian [Ref: CP II p162] (also CP XI p120)
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date: before 1291 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2005-174625]
date: second marriage of Christian [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p348]
date: second marriage of Christian [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p302]
Sir Robert De ROS, Baron Of Wark & (unk-wife) m.
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names: Robert de ROS & Christian BERTRAM [Ref: CP II p162]
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names: Robert de ROS & unk wife [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p301]
child: [Ref: CP XI p120(i)]
child: [Ref: CP XI p120]
child: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 11/16/2005-193752]
child: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 4/12/2005-065752]
child: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p347]
child: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p594]
child: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p301]
child: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p302]
child: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p665]
William De ROS & Christian BERTRAM m. Abt 1241
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names: Robert de ROS & Christian BERTRAM [Ref: CP II p162]
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date: 1241 or earlier [Ref: Hedley Northumberland p228]
date: first marriage of Christine [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p348]
date: in or before 1241 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p301]
names: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 4/12/2005-065752]
child: [Ref: CP XI p120(i)]
child: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2005-174625]
child: [Ref: Hedley Northumberland p225]
child: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p302]
names: Robert de ROS (#20951) & Christian BERTRAM [Ref: CP II p162]
CP II p218 Bonville (of Chewton) Barony by Writ I 1449. 1. William BONVILLE, "… He m. (with corr in XIV p98) by June 1414 Margaret, da. of Reynold GREY, 3rd Lord Grey of Ruthin, s. of Reynold, 2nd Lord Grey, by his 2nd wife Joan."
Margaret was daughter of Reynold GREY, 3rd Lord Grey of Ruthin, by his 1st wife Margaret de ROS. This wa posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Richard Borthwick on 10/16/1998
Margaret GREY d/o Reynold De GREY, Lord Grey Of Ruthin & Margaret De ROOS [AR:93A-33] d. After May 1426 m. Before Jun 1414 William BONVILLE, K.G., Lord Bonville
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mother: Joan second wife of Reynold GREY [Ref: CP II p218 (with corr in XIV p98)]
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parents: [Ref: Richard Borthwick SGM 10/16/1998]
parents: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p434]
parents: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p127]
Reynold De GREY, Lord Grey Of Ruthin & Joan ASTELEY m. Before 7 Feb 1414/5
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child: Margaret wife of William BONVILLE Lord Bonville [Ref: CP II p218 (with corr in XIV p98)]
CP II p418 Bulmer Barony by Writ 6. Sir William BULMER, "… He m. … Elizabeth, da. of Robert EURE, of Bradley, co. Durham, by Elizabeth, said to have been da. and h. of R. MALLORY."
Elizabeth was daughter of Sir Thomas MALLORY, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Paul Reed on 6/21/1999, and as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 10/20/2015
Elizabeth MALLORY d/o Sir Thomas MALLORY & Joan TALBOT b. Abt 1401 m. Before 1422 Robert EURE
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father: R MALLORY [Ref: CP II p418]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/20/2015-031522]
father: [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/21/1999]
CP II p418 Bulmer Barony by Writ 7. Sir Ralph BULMER "… He m. Joan, da. of Sir William BOWES, of Streatlam, co. Durham, by Maud, da. of William (not Henry), Lord FitzHugh. No mention of his second marriage. He d. …"
Ralph BULMER married, 2ndly, Agnes, daughter of Thomas WARDE. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Watson on 10/21/2015. William BULMER was son by this second wife.
Sir William BULMER s/o Sir Ralph BULMER & Agnes WARDE [CP:II-418] b. Abt 23 Apr 1465 d. 18 Oct 1531 u. Leatham, York m. Margery CONYERS
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mother: Joan BOWES [Ref: CP II p418]
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parents: [Ref: John Watson SGM 10/21/2015-203232]
Sir Ralph BULMER & Joan BOWES m.
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child: (of Joan BOWES) William [Ref: CP II p418]
CP II p507 Camoys Barony by Writ I. 1313. 3. Sir Ralph de CAMOYS, "… He m., 2ndly, before 1319, Elizabeth, probably a da. or a sister of William De ROGATE."
Elizabeth was daughter of Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Earl of Winchester, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 12/30/2006.
Elizabeth Le DESPENSER d/o Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Earl Of Winchester & Isabel De BEAUCHAMP d. After 1370 m. Before 20 May 1316 Ralph De CAMOYS, Baron Of Flockthorpe In Hardi
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father: Elizabeth was probably dau or sister of William De ROGATE [Ref: CP II p507]
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father: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 12/30/2006-124123]
William De ROGATE & (unk-wife) m.
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child: Elizabeth , wife of Ralph CAMOYS [Ref: CP II p507]
CP III p55 Carrick (District of) Scotland. Earldom[S]. II. 1250. 2. Neil, Earl of Carrick[S], "… He m. Isabel or Margaret (corr in XIV p151), da. of Walter, High Steward of Scotland. … 3. Margaret, suo jure Countess of Carrick[S], da. and h."
Parents of Margaret of Carrick were identified in a posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 11/25/2005 and posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 10/25/2007 and posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 1/13/2009. Parents of Isabella are not known.
Margaret Of Carrick, Countess Of Carrick d/o Neil Earl Of Carrick, Regent Of Scotland & Isabella [CP:III-55, AR:121C-30] b. Abt 1252 d. Before 27 Oct 1292 m. 1 Adam De KILCONQUHAR m2. 1271 Turnberry Sir Robert De BRUS, Earl Of Carrick, Lord Of Annand
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mother: Margaret dau Walter High Steward of Scotland [Ref: CP III p55]
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parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/13/2009-110746]
parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/25/2007-225435]
parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/25/2005-002926]
parents: Neil Earl of Carrick & Isabella or Margaret [Ref: SP II p426 (with corr in IX p55)]
Isabella d/o [ES:III-159] m. Neil Earl Of Carrick, Regent Of Scotland
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father: Walter, High Steward of Scotland [Ref: CP III p55]
Neil Earl Of Carrick, Regent Of Scotland & Isabella m.
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names: Neil Earl of Carrick & Margaret dau Walter High Steward of Scotland [Ref: CP III p55]
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names: Neil Earl of Carrick & Isabella or Margaret [Ref: SP II p426 (with corr in IX p55)]
names: Neil Earl of Carrick & Isabella, parentage unknown [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/25/2005-002926]
Walter Stewart, High Steward Of Scotland & Beatrix Of Angus m.
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child: Margaret , wife of Neil Earl of Carrick [Ref: CP III p55]
CP III p55 Carrick (District of) Scotland. Earldom[S]. I. 1186?. 1. Duncan, "… II. 1250. 2. Neil, Earl of Carrick[S], "s. and h., …"
Parents of Neil, Earl of Carrick, were identified in posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Brice Clagett on 10/25/2004. His father was identified in posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 11/25/2005.
Neil Earl Of Carrick, Regent Of Scotland s/o Nicol Of Carrick & (Unk) O'NEILL [CP:III-55, AR:121C-29] b. Abt 1230 d. 1256 m. Isabella
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father: Duncan Earl Of Carrick [Ref: CP III p55]
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parents: Nicol of Carick & dau Niall Ruach O'NEILL [Ref: Brice Clagett SGM 10/25/2004-120734]
father: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/25/2005-002926]
Duncan Earl Of Carrick & Avelina Of Scotland m. Nov 1200
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
child: Neil Earl of Carrick [Ref: CP III p55]
CP III p115 Cauntelo Barony by Writ IV. 1355 to 1375. 4. Sir William De CAUNTELOU, "… His two sons … were as follows: (a) Nicholas de CAUNTELOU, … He m. Katherine. … His widow died before 6 July 1375."
Katherine PAYNELL was living in 1395, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 7/23/2016.
Katherine PAYNELL d/o Sir Ralph PAYNELL & Katherine d. After 1395 m. 1 Nicholas De CAUNTELO m2. After 1371 Sir John AUNCELL m3. Abt 1385 Sir Henry RETFORD
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date: before 6 Jul 1375 [Ref: CP III p115]
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date: living 1395 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/23/2016-022916]
CP III p248 Clare Earldom II. 1637. 2. John (HOLLES), Earl of Clare, &c, "… He m., 4 Sep 1626, … Elizabeth, 1st da. and coh. Of Horatio (VERE), Baron Vere of Tilbury … His widow, who was b. in the Netherlands, 1623, "
Elizabeth was born 1609, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Leo van de Pas on 11/25/2006.
Elizabeth VERE d/o Horace VERE, Lord Vere of Tilbury & Mary TRACY b. 1609 Netherlands d. Dec 1683 u. 11 Jan 1683/4 St Mary's Church, Nottingham m. 4 Sep 1626 St Bartholomew-the-Great, London John HOLLES, Earl of Clare
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date: 1623, first daughter [Ref: CP III p248]
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date: [Ref: Leo van de Pas SGM 11/25/2006-160210]
CP III p307 Clifton Barony by Writ I. 1376 1. John de CLIFTON, "… s. and h of Constantine C., … which Constantine was s. and h. ap. of Adam de Clifton(a), " Note (a): "This Adam was s. and h. of another Adam de C. … which Margery and Thomas were children of Adam de CAILLY, by Emma, his 2nd wife, da. (whose issue became coh.) of Robert de TATESHALE (3rd Lord Tateshale) (corr in XIV p190)"
Emma was sister of Robert 3rd Lord Tateshal, not daughter. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 9/16/2011 and GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 6/21/2017
Emma De TATESHAL d/o Robert De TATESHALE, Baron Of Tattershall & Nichole De GREY d. 1306 m. Before 1284 Adam De CAILLY
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father: Robert de TATESHALL [Ref: CP III p307(a)] (also CP XII/1 p653(c))
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/21/2017-043541]
parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/16/2011-154417]
Sir Robert De TATESHAL, Lord Tateshal & Joan FITZRANDOLPH m. Before 1268
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child: Emma [Ref: CP III p307(a)]
CP III p308 Clifton Barony by Writ II. 1388 to 1395. 2. Constantine (De CLIFTON), Lord Clifton, "… He m., after Feb 1389/90, Margaret, da. of Sir John HOWARD, of Wigenhall, Norfolk, by his 1st wife, Margaret, da. of Sir John PLAIZ, 5th Lord Plaiz."
Margaret was daughter of Sir Robert HOWARD and Margaret de SCALES, as was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 2/12/2021
Margaret HOWARD d/o Sir Robert HOWARD & Margaret De SCALES d. 25 Mar 1434 u. Blackfriars, Norwich, Norfolk m. After Feb 1389/90 Constantine CLIFTON, Lord Clifton m2. Before 1397 Sir Gilbert TALBOT
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parents: John HOWARD & Margaret PLAIZ [Ref: CP III p308]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 2/12/2021-122944]
Sir John HOWARD & Margaret PLAIZ, Baroness Plaiz m. Abt 22 Jun 1378
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child: Margaret [Ref: CP III p308]
CP III p344 Cobham (of Kent) Barony by Writ III. 1355. 3. John (De COBHAM), Lord Cobham, "… He m., when a minor, and apparently very young, in 1332-33, Margaret, 1st da. of Hugh (COURTENAY), Earl of Devon, by Margart, da. of Humphrey (De BOHUN), Earl of Hereford, … She d. 2 Aug 1385"
Margaret COURTENAY died in Aug 1395, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Brad Verity on 11/26/2003.
Margaret COURTENAY d/o Sir Hugh De COURTENAY, Earl Of Devon & Margaret De BOHUN b. Abt 1330 d. Aug 1395 u. Cobham m. Sir Theobald GRENVILLE m2. Before 9 Jun 1341 John De COBHAM, Lord Cobham
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date: 2 Aug 1385 [Ref: CP III p344]
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note: mentioned in the will of her mother Margaret, Countess of Devon, dated 28 Jan 1390/1 [Ref: CP++(proposed) Cobham 11/12/2003 (CP III p344)]
date: [Ref: Brad Verity SGM 11/26/2003-035747]
date: 1395 [Ref: CP++(proposed) Cobham 11/12/2003 (CP III p344)]
CP III p344 Cobham (of Kent) Barony by Writ III. 1355. 3. John (De COBHAM), Lord Cobham, "… He m., when a minor, and apparently very young, in 1332-33, Margaret, 1st da. of Hugh (COURTENAY), Earl of Devon, by Margart, da. of Humphrey (De BOHUN), Earl of Hereford, …"
Their marriage was in 1341 as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Brad Verity on 11/26/2003
John De COBHAM, Lord Cobham & Margaret COURTENAY m. Before 9 Jun 1341
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date: when very young, 1332-33 [Ref: CP III p344]
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date: 1341 [Ref: Brad Verity SGM 11/26/2003-035747]
CP III p345 Cobham (of Kent) Barony by Writ IV. 1408. 4. Joan, suo jure Baroness Cobham, "… She m. 5thly, Sir John HARPEDEN, who survived her for 24 years, and d. 1458, "
Sir John HARPEDEN died in May 1438, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Brad Verity on 11/30/2003.
Sir John HARPENDEN s/o John HARPENDEN & d. 8 May 1438 u. Westminster Abbey m. Before 1422 Eleanor MORTIMER m2. Before Jun 1428 Joan De La POLE, Baroness Cobham m3. After 1433 Elizabeth COBHAM
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date: 1458 [Ref: CP III p345] (also CP X p48)
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date: May 1438 [Ref: Brad Verity SGM 11/30/2003-172941]
date: May 1438 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 5/20/2013-161327]
CP III p431 Cornwall (County of) Earldom. II. 1227?. 1. Richard, "… He m., 3rdly, 16 June 1269, Beatrice, da. of Walram de FAUQUEMONT, Seigneur de Montjoye, by Jutta, da. of Otto, Count of Ravensberg in Westphalia."
Beatrice was daughter of Dietrich Lord of Volkenburg and Berta of Limburg, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Peter Stewart on 6/2/2004
Beatrice Of Falkenburg d/o Dietrich II Lord Of Volkenburg & Berta Of Limburg [ES:VI-22, ES:XVIII-23] b. 1253 d. 17 Oct 1277 u. Friars Minors, Oxford m. 16 Jun 1269 Kaiserlautern, Germany Richard Earl Of Cornwall, Holy Roman Emperor
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parents: Waleram & Jutta Of Ravensberg [Ref: CP III p431]
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parents: [Ref: Peter Stewart SGM 6/2/2004-230117]
Walram VI Lord Of Monschau & Jutta Of Ravensberg m. Before 1251
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child: Beatrice wife of Richard Earl of Cornwall [Ref: CP III p431]
CP III p465 Courtenay 1. Hugh de COURTENAY, "… He d. 28 Feb. 1291/2"
Hugh de COURTENAY died 20 Feb 1291/2, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 12/18/2005.
Sir Hugh De COURTENAY, Baron Of Oakhampton s/o Sir John De COURTENAY, Baron Of Oakhampton & Isabel De VERE [CP:III-465, ES:III-629, AR:50-30] b. 25 Mar 1251 d. 20 Feb 1291/2 Cullicomb, Devon u. Cowick Priory, Exeter, Devon m. Eleanor Le DESPENSER
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date: 28 Feb 1291/2 [Ref: CP III p465]
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date: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 12/18/2005-192845]
date: [Ref: Reed Bernard p310]
date: 20 Feb 1291 [Ref: Sheppard BOWLES p115]
CP IV p39 Dalkeith 1. Sir James DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith, "s. and h. of Sir James D., one of the most powerful Barons of his time, by his 1st wife, Agnes, da. of Patrick (DUNBAR), Earl of Dunbar[S], …"
Agnes was daughter of Patrick DUNBAR by Isabel RANDOLPH, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 11/17/2005. Her father was first cousin of the Earl of Dunbar given in CP IV p39. Her identification is also given by Andrew B.W.MacEwen in Boyd Tomb at Kilmarnock, in The Genealogist, vol 24 no 1 (Spring 2010), pp52-64. It is also given by Neil Thompson in Ancestry of Charles II, vol 23 p206.
Agnes DUNBAR d/o Sir Patrick DUNBAR & Isabel RANDOLPH d. Before Oct 1378 m. Before 23 Aug 1369 John MAITLAND m2. Concubine David II King Of Scots m3. Before 22 Nov 1372 Sir James DOUGLAS
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
father: Patrick DUNBAR Earl of Dunbar [Ref: CP IV p39]
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parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/17/2005-121726]
parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 3/7/2007-080037]
parents: [Ref: MacEwen BoydTomb p57(23)]
parents: [Ref: SP III p261]
parents: [Ref: SP VI p348]
parents: [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v23-206]
father: [Ref: SP V p284]
brother: George Earl of Dunbar [Ref: SP III p261]
brother: George Earl of March [Ref: SP V p284]
brother: Goerge Earl of Dunbar [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v12-88]
Patrick DUNBAR, Earl Of March Or Dunbar & Ermengarde De SOULIS m. Abt 1303
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child: Agnes DUNBAR wife of Sir James DOUGLAS [Ref: CP IV p39]
CP IV p95 Daubeney 1. Sir Ralph D'AUBIGNE, or D'AUBENEY, "… He m. Isabel." 2. Sir Philip D'AUBENEY Barony by Writ. 3. Sir Helie, or Elis, DAUBENEY, "next br. And h. …"
The wife of Sir Ralph D'AUBIGNE was Iseult De SULNEY, and mother of both Sir Philip D'AUBENEY and Sir Helie DAUBENEY. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 11/20/2006.
Sir Helie DAUBENEY, Lord Daubeney s/o Sir Ralph D'AUBIENEY & Isuelt De SULNEY [CP:IV-95] b. Abt 1264 d. Abt 8 Apr 1305 m. 1 Joan
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mother: Isabel [Ref: CP IV p95]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 11/20/2006-123602]
Sir Ralph D'AUBIENEY & Isabel m. 2
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child: Helie [Ref: CP IV p95]
CP IV p100 Daubeney 8. Sir Giles DAUBENEY, "… He m., 1stly, Joan (said to have been widow of John BEAUMONT), 3rd da. of Sir Philip DARCY"
Joan DARCY who married John BEAUMONT was daughter of John DARCY and Joan GREYSTOKE (and granddaughter of John 5th Lord Darcy). Joan DARCY who married Giles DAUBENEY was daughter of Philip DARCY and Elizabeth GREY (and also granddaughter of John 5th Lord Darcy). This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Brad Verity on 1/7/2016, where he noted that John BEAUMONT was killed at battle of Towton in 1461, making it far too late for his widow to have been the first wife of Giles DAUBENEY.
(unk-husb) & Joan DARCY m. 1
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names: John BEAUMONT & Joan DARCY [Ref: CP IV p100]
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date: said to have been first marriage of Joan [Ref: CP IV p100]
CP IV p120 Deincourt Barony by Writ I. 1299. 1. Sir Edmund DEINCOURT, "… He m. Isabel, da. of Sir Reynold de MOHUN, of Dunster, Somerset, by his 2nd wife, Isabel, da. of William (De FERRERS), Earl of Derby."
Isabel was daughter of Sir Reynold de MOHUN by his 1st wife, Hawise FITZ GEOFFREY, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 9/8/2004
Isabel De MOHUN d/o Sir Reynold De MOHUN, Baron Of Dunster & Hawise FITZ GEOFFREY m. Sir Edmund DEINCOURT, Lord Deincourt
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mother: Isabel De FERRERS [Ref: CP IV p120]
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parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 9/8/2004-082257]
note: not listed as a daughter of Reynold de MOHUN & Isabel de FERRERS on chart (chart only shows William de Mohun of Mildenhall d 18 Aug 1282) [Ref: CP IV p199]
Sir Reynold De MOHUN, Baron Of Dunster & Isabel De FERRERS m. Abt 1243
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child: Isabel De MOHUN [Ref: CP IV p120]
CP IV p131 DEIVILLE 1. Sir John D'EIVILLE (correctly De DAIVILLE), "… s. and h. of Sir Robert De DAIVILLE … by Dionis or Denise, da. of Sir Thomas FITZ WILLIAM, of Sprotborough"
Denise was sister of Thomas FITZ WILLIAM, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 12/7/2012. Douglas Richardson also shows her in that family in RoyalAnc v2p531 and v2p672.
Denise FITZ WILLIAM d/o William FITZ WILLIAM & Adela/Ela De WARENNE d. Before 1284 m. Abt 1229 Sir Robert De DAIVILLE
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father: Thomas FITZWILLIAM [Ref: CP IV p131]
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parents: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p531]
parents: [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p672]
brother: Thomas FITZWILLIAM [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 12/7/2012-090528]
Sir Thomas FITZ WILLIAM, Lord Of Emley And Sprotbro & Agnes BERTRAM m.
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child: Denise wife of Robert D'EYVILL [Ref: CP IV p131]
CP IV p207 Derby Earldom X. 1485. 1. Thomas (STANLEY), Lord Stanley, "… He m., 1stly, apparently after 10 May 1457, Eleanor, sister of Richard, Earl of Warwick (the celebrated King Maker),"
This marriage was in 1451, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 8/16/2013. RoyalAnc v5p29 gives the date of settlement as 17 Dec 1454.
Sir Thomas STANLEY, K.G., Earl Of Derby & Eleanor NEVILLE m. Abt 17 Dec 1454 Middleham Castle, Yorkshire
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date: after 10 May 1457 [Ref: CP IV p207]
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date: 1451 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 8/16/2013-163517]
date: abt 17 Dec 1454 (date of settlement) [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p29]
CP IV p321 Devon Earldom VII 1245. 7. Baldwin de REVIERS, Earl of Devon, "… He m., in 1257, Margaret (niece of the said Pierre and first cousin of the Queen), da. of Count Thomas De SAVOIE(c), " Note (c): "… … The following table shows the relationship between the persons mentioned above:
Humbert III, Count of Savoy: d. 4 Mar. 1188/9 = Beatrix, da. of Girard, Count of Vienne and Macon: vur. 8 Apr 1230.
Thomas, Count of Savoy: d. 1 Mar 1232/3. = Marguerite, da. of Humbert, Count of Geneva: living 1256."
Marguerite was sister of Humbert, Count of Geneva, not daughter of Humbert. This is shown in CP V p629(e),and was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Richard Borthwick on 1/26/1999
Margaret Of Geneva d/o William I Count Of Geneva & Beatrix De FAUCIGNY [ES:XI-158, AR:133-26] b. Abt 1180 d. 8 Apr 1257 Pierre Chatel m. Abt 1196 Thomas I Count Of Savoy
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father: Humbert Count of Geneva [Ref: CP IV p321(a)]
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parents: [Ref: Richard Borthwick SGM 1/26/1999]
brother: Humbert Count of Geneva [Ref: CP V p629(e)]
Humbert Count Of Geneva & Agnes Of Savoy m.
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child: Margaret wife of Thomas Count of Savoy [Ref: CP IV p321(a)]
CP IV p373 Dinham 3. Sir John De DINHAM, "… He m., in or before 1310, Margaret. … She d. 28 Nov 1361."
Margaret, wife of Sir John De DINHAM, died before 16 Jan 1360/1, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 12/19/2005
Margaret De BOTREAUX d/o William De BOTREAUX & d. Before 16 Jan 1360/1 m. Abt 1310 Sir John De DINHAM, Lord Dinham
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date: 28 Nov 1361 [Ref: CP IV p373]
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date: before 16 Jan 1361 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 12/19/2005-145934]
CP IV p376 Dinham 4. Sir John De DINHAM, "… He m. 3rdly, Philippe, da. of Sir John LOVELL, of Titchmarsh, Northants, and Minster Lovell, Oxon [Lord Lovell], by Alianore, said to be da. of Sir William La ZOUCHE (with corr in XIV p265), of Harringworth, …"
Philippe was daughter of Sir John LOVELL by Maud de HOLAND, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 1/7/2009
Philippe LOVELL d/o Sir John LOVEL, K.G., Lord Lovel and Holand & Maud De HOLAND, Baroness Holand [AR:215-34] d. 15 May 1465 m. Before 1406 Sir John De DINHAM, Lord Dinham m2. Before 24 Mar 1428/9 Nicholas BROUGHTON
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mother: Alianore ZOUCHE [Ref: CP IV p376]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 1/7/2009-030657]
Sir John LOVEL, Lord Lovel Of Titchmarsh & Alianore ZOUCHE m. Before 4 May 1396
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child: Philippe LOVELL [Ref: CP IV p376]
CP IV p383 Dirletoun Walter HALYBURTON, "… He m., in 1403, Marjory, widow of David, Duke of Rothesay (d.1402), da. of Archibald, 3rd Earl of Douglas, by Joan, only child of Morice (MORAY), Earl of Strathearn."
Joan was daughter of Sir Thomas MORAY, Lord of Bothwell, by Joan MORAY, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 1/1/2006. This was also in CP XI p208 before the correction in XIV p557.
Joan MORAY d/o Sir Thomas MORAY, Lord Of Bothwell & Joan MORAY d. Before Aug 1409 m. Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas
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father: Maurice de MORAY [Ref: CP IV p383] (also CP IV p433, and CP XI p208)
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parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/1/2006-150721]
father: [Ref: CP XI p208 (before corr in XIV p557)]
father: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/1/2018-131023]
father: [Ref: SP III p162]
Sir Maurice MORAY, Earl Of Strathern & Joan De MONTEITH m. Abt 11 Jul 1339
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child: Joan MORAY [Ref: CP IV p383] (also CP IV p433, and CP XI p208)
CP IV p433 Douglas Earldom III. 1388. 3. Archibald (DOUGLAS), Earl of Douglas [S], "… He m. (disp 23 July 1362) Joan, widow of Sir Thomas MORAY, Lord of Bothwell ("Planetarius Scotiae"), by whom he acquired that Lordship, only child and h. of Morice (MORAY), Earl of Strathearne, by Joan, da. of Sir John MENTEITH."
Joan, wife of Archibald DOUGLAS, was daughter of Sit Thomas MORAY, not widow. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 1/1/2006, and also posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 3/1/2018
Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas s/o Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas & Joan MORAY [CP:IV-433] b. Abt 1370 d. 17 Aug 1424 Verneuil, Normandy u. 24 Aug 1424 Cathedral Of Tours m. Concubine Christian De RAMSAY m2. Before 1390 Margaret STEWART
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mother: Joan MORAY [Ref: CP IV p433]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/1/2018-131023]
parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/1/2006-150721]
parents: [Ref: SP III p163]
note: SGM posting updates RoyalAnc (WTM- though he never acknowledges any errors in RoyalAnc) [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/1/2018-131023]
Joan MORAY d/o Sir Thomas MORAY, Lord Of Bothwell & Joan MORAY d. Before Aug 1409 m. Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas
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parents: Maurice de MORAY & Joan MONTEITH [Ref: CP IV p433] (also CP IV p383, and CP XI p208)
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parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/1/2006-150721]
father: [Ref: CP XI p208 (before corr in XIV p557)]
father: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/1/2018-131023]
note: SGM posting updates RoyalAnc v1p649, without any acknowledgement that it was in error [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/1/2018-131023]
Sir Maurice MORAY, Earl Of Strathern & Joan De MONTEITH m. Abt 11 Jul 1339
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child: Joan MORAY [Ref: CP IV p433] (also CP IV p383, and CP XI p208)
(unk-husb) & Joan MORAY m.
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date: disp 23 Jul 1362 [Ref: CP IV p433]
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names: Archibald Douglas & Joan MORAY [Ref: CP IV p433]
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child: Archibald DOUGLAS [Ref: CP IV p433]
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date: disp 23 Jul 1362 [Ref: CP IV p433]
Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas & Joan MORAY m.
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names: Archibald Douglas & Joan MORAY [Ref: CP IV p433]
CP IV Appendix H Earldoms and Baronies in History and in Law, and the Doctrine of Abeyance. p671 Chart III. Buckingham, Gloucester, Warwick, and Leicester before 1135, Pembroke cr. 1138, and Hertford cr. 1141.
Henry de NEWBURGH, Earl of Warwick, d. 1229. = Margery de OILLY
Margery, suo jure Countess of Warwick, ? d.s.p
Margery was daughter of Philippe BASSET, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Rosie Bevan on 5/31/2003
Margaret De NERBURGH, Couness Of Warwick d/o Henry De NEWBURGH, Earl Of Warwick & Philippe BASSET [CP:XII/2-366] d. 3 Jun 1253 m. Abt 22 Aug 1242 John MARSHALL m2. Before 14 Sep 1243 Sir John De PLESCY, Earl Of Warwick
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mother: Margaret de Oilly [Ref: CP IV AppH p670]
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parents: [Ref: Bevan DD++ p621]
parents: [Ref: Bevan Warwick p196]
parents: [Ref: Rosie Bevan SGM 5/31/2003-062015]
CP IV Appendix I Peverel of Nottingham p762 "William Peverel the younger, … His wives were (1) Oddona, and (2) Avice de Lancastria, who was presumably a da. of Count Roger the Poitevin (cognomine Pictaviensis), Lord of the honour of Lancaster, by his wife, Aumodis, Countess of La Marche."
Avice was daughter of William de Lancaster and his first wife, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 3/21/1999
Avice De LANCASTER d/o William I De LANCASTER, Baron Of Kendal & d. 1 Jan 1191 m. 1 William PEVERIL, Baron Of Peverel m2. Before 1170 Richard De MORVILLE, Constable Of Scotland
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parents: Roger de Montgomery, Count of La Marche & Almodis [Ref: CP IV AppI p762]
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parents: William de Lancaster & unk first wife [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p42]
father: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/21/1999]
father: [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p1069]
father: [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p539]
Roger Le POITEVIN, Count Of La Marche & Almodis Countess Of La Marche m. Abt 1091
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child: Avice , wife of William PEVEREL [Ref: CP IV AppI p762]
CP V p57 Elphinstone Barony II. 1513. 2. Alexander (ELPHINSTONE), Lord Elphinstone, "… He m. (cont. 20 Nov. 1525, tocher 1,300 merks), before 27 Feb. 1525/6, Katherine, da. of Robert (ERSKINE), 4th Lord Erskine [S], by Isabel, da. of Sir George CAMPBELL."
Katherine was daughter of John ERSKINE, 5th Lord Erskine, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Tim Powys-Lybbe on 2/12/2006
Katherine ERSKINE d/o John ERSKINE, Lord Erskine & Margaret CAMPBELL m. Before 27 Feb 1525/6 Alexander ELPHINSTONE, Lord Elphinstone
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parents: Robert ERSKINE & Isabel CAMPBELL [Ref: CP V p57] (also CP XI p194)
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parents: [Ref: SP V p612]
parents: [Ref: Tim Powys-Lybbe SGM 2/12/2006-092922]
note: father is corrected (to fifth lord instead of fourth) in SP IX p84, but mother is not [Ref: SP III p532]
Robert ERSKINE, Lord Erskine & Isabel CAMPBELL m. Abt 1485
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child: Katherine ERSKINE [Ref: CP V p57] (also CP XI p194)
CP V p140 Essex XVIII. 1572. 1. Walter (DEVEREUX), Viscount Hereford [1550], Lord Ferrers [1299 or 1461], and Lord Bourchier [1348], "… He m., between 1560 and 1565, Lettice, sister of William, 1st Earl of Banbury, and 1st da. of Sir Francis KNOLLYS, K.G., by Katherine (with corr in XIV p310), da. of William CARY and Mary (BOLEYN), his wife."
Whether Katherine was daughter of William CARY or of Henry VIII is disputed. Anthony Hoskins published an article in Genealogists' Magazine March 1997, "Circumstantial evidence indicates a high probability that Henry VIII fathered two children by Mary Boleyn …" and posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 10/28/2008. The theory is far from proved, but deserves to be mentioned.
Katherine CARY d/o Henry VIII TUDOR, King Of England & Mary BOLEYN [AR:1-37] b. Abt 1524 d. 15 Jan 1568/9 Hampton Court u. St Edmunds Chapel, Westminster Abbey m. 26 Apr 1540 Sir Francis KNOLLYS, K.G.
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father: William CARY [Ref: CP V p140] (also CP I p400)
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parents: [Ref: Hoskins CareyChildren p2]
parents: [Ref: Tony Hoskins SGM 10/28/2008-122437]
William CARY & Mary BOLEYN m. 4 Feb 1519/20
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child: Katherine CARY [Ref: CP V p140] (also CP I p400)
CP V p341 Ferrers of Groby 1. Sir William De FERRERS "… He m., 1stly, Anne, said to have been da. of Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, of Ryhall, Rutland, Loughborough, co. Leicester, Parlington, co. York, &c., sometime Justiciar of England, by Aline, da. and h. of Sir Philip BASSET, of Wycombe, Bucks, &d., also Justiciar of England."
Anna was daughter of Sir Alan DURWARD by Marjorie, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 11/1/2006.
Anna DURWARD d/o Sir Alan DURWARD & Marjorie d. After 3 May 1326 u. Dunmow Priory m. Abt 1262 Colban MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife m2. 1270 Sir William De FERRERS
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
parents: Hugh Le DESPENSER & Aline BASSET [Ref: CP V p341] (also CP VI p174)
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parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/1/2006-115931]
parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 12/23/2008-120646]
parents: [Ref: Ravilious Murdoch p14]
parents: [Ref: Ravilious Murdoch p21]
Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Justiciar Of England & Aline BASSET m. Abt 1260
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
child: Anna [Ref: CP V p341] (also CP VI p174)
CP V p352 Ferrers IV. 1371. 5. Henry (De FERRERS), Lord Ferrers of Groby, "… He m., before 27 Apr. 1371, Joan, da. (probably) of Sir Thomas de HOO, of Luton Hoo and Stopsley, Beds, by Isabel, da. and h. of Sir John De Seint Leger, of Offley, Herts."
Joan was daughter of Sir Luke de POYNINGS by Isabel de St JOHN, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Chris Phillips on 1/31/2004 and also posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 9/26/2002.
Joan De POYNINGS d/o Sir Luke De POYNINGS, Lord Poynings & Isabel De St JOHN, Baroness St John d. 30 May 1394 m. Before 27 Apr 1371 Henry De FERRERS, Lord Ferrers Of Groby
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
parents: Sir Thomas de HOO & Isabel de St LEGER [Ref: CP V p352]
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parents: [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 1/31/2004-171116]
parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/26/2002-130312]
Sir Thomas De HOO & Isabel De St LEGER m. Before 16 Jun 1335
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child: Joan [Ref: CP V p352]
CP V p385 Fingall Earldom [I] I. 1628. 1. Luke PLUNKETT, "… He m., 1stly, Elizabeth, da. of Roderick (O'DONNELL), 1st Earl of Tyrconnel [I], by Bridget, da. of Henry (FITZGERALD), Earl of Kildare [I]."
Elizabeth was daughter of Henry FITZGERALD, rather than granddaughter. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Hal Bradley on 3/21/2015.
Elizabeth FITZGERALD d/o Henry FITZGERALD, Earl Of Kildare & Frances HOWARD d. London m. 1 Luke PLUNKETT, Earl of Fingall
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
parents: Roderick O'DONNELL & Bridget FITZGERALD [Ref: CP V p385]
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parents: [Ref: Hal Bradley SGM 3/21/2015-015347]
Roderick O'DONNELL, Earl of Tyrconnel & Bridget FITZGERALD m. Before 1606
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child: Elizabeth [Ref: CP V p385]
CP V p397 The Lords of Bedale, and their heirsAlan, Count of Brittany and Earl of Richmond: d. 15 Sep 1146, bur. In the Abbey of Begar = Bertha, da. and h. of Conan, Duke or Count of Brittany
Brian fitz Alan, of Bedale = (unk)
Alan fitz Brian, of Bedale: d. Mich. 1189
Brian, ancestor of the FITZALANs, was son of Scolland. This is given in Domesday Descendants p258 and p956, and was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Christopher Nash on 6/21/1999 and GEN-MEDIEVAL by Kay Allen on 8/22/1999.
Brian Fitz SCOLLAND s/o Scolland & d. Abt 1171 m.
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parents: Alan Earl of Richmond & Bertha of Brittany [Ref: CP V p397]
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father: [Ref: Cristopher Nash SGM 6/21/1999]
father: [Ref: Kay Allen SGM 8/22/1999]
father: [Ref: Keats-Rohan Bretons p211]
father: [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p258]
father: [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p956]
Alan The Black Earl Of Richmond & Bertha Of Brittany m. Abt 1137
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child: Brian Fitz Alan [Ref: CP V p397]
CP V p467 Fitzreynold Barony by Writ I. 1299. 1. Sir John FITZ REYNOLD, or FITZ RENAUD, "… He m. Agnes. … 2. Sir Herbert FITZ JOHN,"
Sir Herbert FITZ JOHN was son of Sir John FITZ REYNOLD by his unknown first wife, which was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 09/25/2018.
Sir Herbert FITZ JOHN, Lord FitzReynold s/o Sir John FITZ REYNOLD, Lord FitzReynold & [CP:V-467] b. Abt 1274 d. 25 Jun 1321 m. 29 Apr 1291 Harescombe, Co Gloucester Alianore Le ROUS
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mother: Agnes [Ref: CP V p467]
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father: by unk first wife [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/25/2018-162840]
Sir John FITZ REYNOLD, Lord FitzReynold & Agnes De FERRERS m. Before 1289
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child: Herbert [Ref: CP V p467]
CP V p518 Fitzwilliam Note "The following information has been supplied by Mr. W. Paley Baildon, … His son, Sir John, was born 1327, and was murdered at Howden in 1385. He obtained the manor of East Haddlesey and other property in Yorkshire on the death without issue of Sir Thomas de Stapleton (see STAPLETON), husband of his sister Joan,"
Joan was daughter of Sir John FITZWILLIAM, not sister, as given in CP XII/1 p264 (which is also a discrepancy within CompletePeerage). This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 6/15/2006, and by by John Watson on 11/26/2017.
Joan FITZWILLIAM d/o Sir John FITZ WILLIAM & Elizabeth CLINTON d. 1385 m. 1 Thomas De STAPLETON, Lord Stapleton m2. After 1373 Sir John FELTON
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brother: Sir John FitzWILLIAM d.1385 [Ref: CP V p518note]
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parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 6/15/2006-221024]
father: [Ref: CP XII/1 p264]
father: [Ref: John Watson SGM 11/26/2017-024439]
CP VI p53 Graham Barony I. 1444? 1. Patrick (GRAHAM), Lord Graham, "… He m. Christian, 2nd and yst. Da. of Robert, 1st Lord Erskine, by Elizabeth, da. of David (LINDSAY), 1st Earl of Crawford."
Christian was daughter of Robert 1st Lord Erskine by a daughter of Robert STEWART. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 1/14/2010.
Christian ERSKINE d/o Sir Robert ERSKINE, Lord Erskine & (Unk Dau) STEWART b. 2 d. After 1479 m. 1 Patrick GRAHAM, Lord Graham m2. 1476 William CHARTERIS
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mother: Elizabeth LINDSAY [Ref: CP VI p53]
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parents: Robert ERSKINE & dau Robert STEWART [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/14/2010-131528]
Sir Robert ERSKINE, Lord Erskine & Elizabeth LINDSAY m. Abt 20 Dec 1400
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child: Christian [Ref: CP VI p53]
CP VI p130 Grey (of Codnor) Barony by Writ VI. 1430. 6. Sir Henry (GREY), Lord Grey (of Codnor), "… He m., before 5 May 1434, Margaret, 2nd da. and coh. of Sir Henry PERCY, of Atholl, … His widow m., 2ndly, Sir Richard VERE, younger s. of John, 12th Earl of Oxford,"
Richard VERE was brother of John 12th Earl of Oxford, and son of Richard 11th Earl, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 12/14/2011.
Sir Richard De VERE s/o Richard De VERE, K.G., Earl of Oxford & Alice SERGEAUX d. After 21 Dec 1466 m. Abt 3 Dec 1445 Margaret PERCY
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
father: John de VERE 12th Earl [Ref: CP VI p130] (also CP I p308(e))
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 12/14/2011-193845]
John VERE, Earl Of Oxford & Elizabeth HOWARD, Baroness Plaiz m. Abt Jun 1425
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
child: Richard de VERE [Ref: CP VI p130] (also CP I p308(e))
CP VI p174 Grey (of Wilton or of Shirland) Barony by Writ II. 1308. 2. John (De GREY), Lord Grey (of Wilton), "… He m., 1stly (it is said), Anne, da. of Sir William De FERRERS, of Groby, co. Leicester, by his 1st wife, Anne, da. of Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, of Ryhall, Rutland, Loughborough, co. Leicester, Parlington, co. York, etc."
The wife of Sir William De FERRERS was Anne DURWARD, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 11/1/2006 and on 12/23/2008.
Anna DURWARD d/o Sir Alan DURWARD & Marjorie d. After 3 May 1326 u. Dunmow Priory m. Abt 1262 Colban MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife m2. 1270 Sir William De FERRERS
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
father: Hugh le DESPENSER [Ref: CP VI p174] (also CP V p341)
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parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/1/2006-115931]
parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 12/23/2008-120646]
parents: [Ref: Ravilious Murdoch p14]
parents: [Ref: Ravilious Murdoch p21]
Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Justiciar Of England & Aline BASSET m. Abt 1260
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
child: Anna [Ref: CP VI p174] (also CP V p341)
CP VI p344 Hastang Sir John HASTANG, "… He m. Maud, said to have been (but always assigned as 2nd wife to the elder Sir John) a da. of Sir William TRUSSELL, or (by Dugdale) of Sir Waryn TRUSSELL."
Maud was daughter of Sir Warin TRUSSELL, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Ronny Bodine on 8/17/1999 and by Douglas Richardson on 10/22/2007.
Maud TRUSSELL d/o Sir Warin TRUSSELL & Maud De ST PHILIBERT d. 20 Jul 1369 m. Before 2 Feb 1358/9 John HASTANG m2. Before 21 Apr 1367 William De HALUGHTON
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father: Sir William TRUSSEL [Ref: CP VI p344]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/22/2007-213017]
father: [Ref: Ronny Bodine SGM 8/17/1999]
Sir William TRUSSELL & Ida BOTELER m. Before 1342
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child: Maud TRUSSELL [Ref: CP VI p344]
CP VI p400 Haudlo Sir Richard de HAUDLO, "s. and h. by 1st wife. He m., before 16 Dec. 1330, Isabel, da. of Aumaric De St. AMAND."
Isabel was daughter of John De St AMAND, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 1/15/2004.
Isabel De St AMAND d/o John De St AMAND, Lord St Amand & Margaret Le DESPENSER d. 22 Oct 1361 m. Before 16 Dec 1330 Sir Richard De HAUDLO m2. Before 20 Aug 1346 Sir Robert De HILDESLEY
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
father: Amauri de St AMAND Lord St Amand [Ref: CP VI p400]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 1/15/2004-223009]
parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 12/23/2008-073735]
father: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 1/19/2004-181149]
brother: Amauri 2nd Lord St Amand [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 1/15/2004-223009]
Amauri De St AMAND, Lord St Amand & Joan BURNELL m. Before 3 Nov 1329
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
child: Isabel de St AMAND [Ref: CP VI p400]
CP VI p421 Hay of Yester Barony I. 1488. 1. John HAY, "s. and h. of Sir David HAY, of Yester,(a)" Note (a): "The castle of Yester and one-fourth of the barony … The above Alice, who from the deed quoted was apparently born HAY, is said to been a da. of Sir Thomas HAY of Eroll, and was mother by Sir William HAY of Sir David HAY, father of the 1st Lord."
Alice was daughter of Sir William BORTHWICK, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 12/3/2005. Her brother was William BORTHWICK, as given by Neil Thompson in Ancestry of Charles II, vol 13 p94 (with update in book p186(88).
Alicia BORTHWICK d/o Sir William BORTHWICK & (Unk) d. After 23 Feb 1449/50 m. 2 Sir William HAY
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
father: said to be Thomas HAY [Ref: CP VI p421(a)]
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father: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 12/3/2005-111110]
brother: William BORTHWICK [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v13-94 (with update in book p186(88))]
Sir Thomas HAY, Constable Of Scotland & Elizabeth STEWART m. Before 7 Nov 1372
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child: Alice wife of Sir William HAY [Ref: CP VI p421(a)]
CP VI p627 Hunsdon Barony. I. 1559. 1. Henry CAREY, "only s. and h. of William CARY, Gentleman of the Privy Chamber and Esquire of the body to Henry VIII,"
Whether Henry was son of William CARY or of Henry VIII is disputed. Anthony Hoskins published an article in Genealogists' Magazine March 1997, "Circumstantial evidence indicates a high probability that Henry VIII fathered two children by Mary Boleyn …" and posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 10/28/2008. The theory is far from proved, but deserves to be mentioned.
Henry CARY, Lord Hunsdon s/o Henry VIII TUDOR, King Of England & Mary BOLEYN [CP:VI-627] b. 4 Mar 1525/6 d. 23 Jul 1596 Somerset House, Strand u. Chapel of St John Baptist, Westminster Abbey m. Abt 21 May 1545 Anne MORGAN
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
father: William CARY [Ref: CP VI p627]
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parents: [Ref: Hoskins CareyChildren p2]
parents: [Ref: Tony Hoskins SGM 10/28/2008-122437]
William CARY & Mary BOLEYN m. 4 Feb 1519/20
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child: Henry [Ref: CP VI p627]
CP VII p400 Lancaster Earldom III. 1326. 3. Henry, styled "of Lancaster", "… He m., 2ndly, as her 2nd husband, Alix, who in 1307 was widow of Jean, Sieur D'Arcies sur Aube et de Chacenay, and da. of John De Joinville, Seneschal of Champagne,"
The first husband of Alice De JOINVILLE was John PLANTAGENET, son of Edmund "Crouchback" son of Henry III, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 9/23/2003.
John PLANTAGENET, Lord Of Beaufort & Alice De JOINVILLE m. Before Jul 1312
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date: first marriage of Alice [Ref: CP VII p400]
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names: Jean Sieur D Arcies sur Aube & Alice de JOINVILLE [Ref: CP VII p400]
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date: before Jul 1312 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/23/2003-131512]
CP VII p596 Lennox Earldom X. [1473] 1488. 10 or 1. Sir John STUART of Darnley, "… He m. (indenture 15 May 1438) Margaret, elder da. of Alexander MONTGOMERY, lord of Ardrossan, afterwards 1st Lord Montgomery, by Margaret, da. of Sir Thomas BOYD, of Kilmarnock."
Margaret was daughter of Alexander MONTGOMERY (eldest son and heir apparent of Alexander 1st Lord Montgomery) by Elizabeth HEPBURN, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 11/14/2008. This also appeared in Andrew B.W. MacEwen's article "Seven Scottish Countesses I - Margaret Montgomery, Countess of Lennox" in in The Genealogist, vol 11 pp176-83, and Neil Thompson in Ancestry of Charles II, vol 4 p145 (with corr in vol 12 p89).
Margaret MONTGOMERIE d/o Alexander MONTGOMERIE, Master Of Montgomerie & Elizabeth HEPBURN b. 1 d. After 30 May 1493 m. Before 20 Jul 1461 John STEWART, Earl Of Lennox
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parents: Alexander MONTGOMERY & Margaret BOYD [Ref: CP VII p596] (also CP I p199)
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parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/14/2008-094531]
parents: [Ref: MacEwen 7Countesses Lennox p183]
parents: [Ref: SP III p433]
parents: [Ref: Thompson CharlesII v04-145 (with corr in 12-89)]
Alexander MONTGOMERIE, Lord Montgomerie & Margaret BOYD m.
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child: Margaret MONTGOMERIE wife of John Earl of Lennox [Ref: CP VII p596] (also CP I p199)
CP VIII p48 Chart "Lisle of Rougemont & Lisle of Kingston Lisle"
Robert, I Lord Lisle, sum. 1311, d. 1344. = Margaret de Beauchamp.
Thomas de Seymour =1 Alice 2= Robert Peverel
descendants coheirs.
Alice who married (1st) Robert PEVEREL wasn't daughter of Robert LISLE & Margaret BEAUCHAMP; her parents are unknown. She married (2nd) Thomas VERDON. Alice LISLE married (1st) Thomas ST MAUR/SEYMOUR, and had no second marriage. This is shown in a Chris Phillips post to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 8/20/2005.
(unk-husb) & Alice De LISLE m.
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date: second marriage of Alice [Ref: CP VIII p48f] (also CP VIII p73(i))
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names: Sir Robert PEVEREL & Alice de LISLE [Ref: CP VIII p48f] (also CP VII p73(i))
CP VIII p48 Lisle of Kingston Lisle Chart "Lisle of Rougemont & Lisle of Kingston Lisle"
Robert, I Lord Lisle, sum 1312, d.1344 = Margaret de BEAUCHAMP
Alice 1= Thomas de SEYMOUR 2= Robert PEVEREL
Alice wife of Robert PEVEREL was not Alice LISLE, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 1/29/2019.
Sir Robert PEVEREL & Alice m. 1
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names: Sir Robert De PEVEREL & Alice de LISLE [Ref: CP VIII p48f] (also CP VIII p73(i))
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date: first marriage of Alice [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 8/20/2005-161207]
names: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 1/29/2019-125940]
CP VIII p73 Lisle of Rougemont Barony by Writ I. 1311. 1. Robert De LISLE, "… He d. 4 Jan. 1343/4, and was bur. In the choir of the Franciscan church in London, in the chapel of All Saints(i)." Note (i): "In addition to his s. and h. John, he left a son Robert, and daughters Alice, wife of Thomas de Seymour, who appears afterwards to have m. Robert Peverel, and to have d. in 1349; and Elizabeth …"
Alice who married (1st) Robert PEVEREL wasn't daughter of Robert LISLE & Margaret BEAUCHAMP; her parents are unknown. She married (2nd) Thomas VERDON. Alice LISLE married (1st) Thomas ST MAUR/SEYMOUR, and had no second marriage. This is shown in a Chris Phillips post to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 8/20/2005.
(unk-husb) & Alice De LISLE m.
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date: second marriage of Alice [Ref: CP VIII p73(i)] (also CP VIII p48f)
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names: Sir Robert PEVEREL & Alice de LISLE [Ref: CP VIII p73(i)] (also CP VIII p48f)
CP VIII p73 Lisle Barony by Writ I. 1311. 1. Robert De LISLE, "… and was bur. In the choir of the Franciscan church in London, in the chapel of All Saints.(i)" Note (i): "In addition to his s. and h. John, he left … Alice, wife of Thomas de Seymour, who appears afterwards to have m. Robert Peverel."
Alice wife of Robert PEVEREL was not Alice LISLE, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 1/29/2019.
Sir Robert PEVEREL & Alice m. 1
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names: Sir Robert De PEVEREL & Alice de LISLE [Ref: CP VIII p73(i)] (also CP VIII p48f)
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date: first marriage of Alice [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 8/20/2005-161207]
names: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 1/29/2019-125940]
CP VIII p274 Lumley Barony by Writ III. 1485. 2. George LUMLEY, "… [Thomas LUMLEY, s. and h., is said to have m. Elizabeth, bastard da. of Edward IV, and to have d.v.p, in 1487.]"
Thomas LUMLEY was living 1502, and died abt 1502 (IPM dated 1502 or 1503), as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 10/30/2013.
Thomas De LUMLEY s/o George De LUMLEY, Lord Lumley & Elizabeth THORNTON [CP:VIII-274] b. 1462 d. Abt 1502 m. Before 1477 Margaret PLANTAGENET
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date: 1487 [Ref: CP VIII p274]
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date: inq.p.m dated 1502 or 1503 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/30/2013-025547]
date: living 1502, d before 13 Nov 1507 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/21/2013-135317]
CP VIII p275 Lumley Barony by Writ V. 1510. 4. John LUMLEY, "… He m. Joan, da. of Henry (SCROPE), Lord Scrope of Bolton, by his 2nd wife, Margaret da. of Thomas (DACRE), Lord Dacre of Gillesland;"
Joan was sister of that Henry SCROPE, daughter of Henry SCROPE 6th Lord Scrope by Elizabeth PERCY, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Hal Bradley on 6/28/2008.
Joan SCROPE d/o Sir Henry SCROPE, Lord Scrope & Elizabeth PERCY d. After 1545 m. John LUMLEY, Lord Lumley
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mother: Margaret DACRE [Ref: CP VIII p275]
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parents: [Ref: Hal Bradley SGM 6/28/2008-204357]
Henry SCROPE, Lord Scrope & Mabel DACRE m. After 1510
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child: Joan [Ref: CP VIII p275]
CP VIII p464 Mare or de la Mare Barony by Writ II. 1313. 2. Florence De La MARE, "… She m., 1stly, Sir Philip De ORREBY, s. and h. of John De ORREBY [Lord Orreby], by Isabel, da. and eventually (with corr in XIV p466) coh. of Robert De TATESHALE."
Isabel was coheir of her brother Robert De TATESHALE, and daughter of Robert De TATESHALE and Nichold de GREY, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 9/16/2011.
Isabel TATESHAL d/o Robert De TATESHALE, Baron Of Tattershall & Nichole De GREY d. Before 1313 m. 1 John De ORREBY, Lord Orreby
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father: Robert de TATESHALL [Ref: CP VIII p464 (with corr in XIV p466)] (also CP X p172, and CP XII/1 p653(c))
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/16/2011-154417]
Sir Robert De TATESHAL, Lord Tateshal & Joan FITZRANDOLPH m. Before 1268
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child: Isabel [Ref: CP VIII p464 (with corr in XIV p466)] (also CP X p172)
CP VIII p473 Marischal Sir William De KEITH, "who appears to have been s. and h. of the William abovenamed, … He m., on or before 3 May 1351, Margaret, da. of John FRASER, by (---), and granddaughter and h. of Sir Alexander FRASER, lord of the barony of Strathkyn, and Mary, his wife, sister of King Robert I."
John FRASER was son of Sir Alexander FRASER and a daughter of Reginale le CHEYNE, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 1/7/2010. That posting also notes that the account in Scots Peerage and elsewhere, showing John Fraser of Aboyne as a son of Mary Bruce, Andrew B.W.MacEwen had shown some time ago that this is an error.
John FRASER s/o Sir Alexander FRASER, Lord Great Chamberlain Of Scotla & (Unk) Le CHEYNE b. 5 m.
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mother: Mary BRUS [Ref: CP VIII p473]
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parents: Alexander FRASER & dau Reginald le CHEYNE [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/7/2010-222207]
note: the account in Scots Peerage and elsewhere, showing John Fraser of Aboyne as a son of Mary Bruce, Andrew B.W.MacEwen had shown some time ago that this is an error [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/7/2010-222207]
Sir Alexander FRASER, Lord Great Chamberlain Of Scotla & Mary De BRUS m. 1316
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child: John FRASER [Ref: CP VIII p473]
CP VIII p523 Marny or Marney Barony I. 1523 (Apr. to May). 1. Sir Henry MARNY, s. and h. of Sir John MARNY, of Layer-Marney, Essex (d. between Trin. 1470 and 1 Apr. 1472), by Jane (m. before 27 Apr. 1447), da. of John THROCKMORTON, of co. Gloucester."
The marriages of Joan THROCKMORTON are given in a posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 7/29/2016. Joan married 1stly Robert GIFFORD, who d. 1446; 2ndly Drew BARENTINE, who d. 23 Apr 1453, and 3rdly Sir John MARNY. So this third marriage of Joan was after 23 Apr 1453.
Sir John MARNY & Jane THROCKMORTON m. After 1453
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date: before 27 Apr 1447 [Ref: CP VIII p523]
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date: third marriage of Joan [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2016-001150]
CP IX p14 Mohaut Robert de MOHAUT, "s. and h. The castle of Hawarden was delivered to him as heir thereof in June 1265, … He m., circa 1261, Joan, da. of Roger de MOWBRAY by Maud, sister and (eventually) coheir of Simon de BEAUCHAMP, 1st da. of William de BEAUCHAMP, Baron of Bedford."
The wife of Roger MOWBRAY was a daughter of Thomas de FURNIVAL and Berthe de FERRERS, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 7/29/2005.
Joan De MOWBRAY d/o Sir Roger MOWBRAY, Baron Of Thirsk & (Unk Dau) De FURNIVAL d. Before 1315 m. Abt 1261 Robert De MOHAUT, Steward Of Chester
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parents: Roger de MOWBRAY & Maud de BEAUCHAMP [Ref: CP IX p14 (with corr in XIV p478)] (also CP IX p376(h))
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parents: Roger de MOWBRAY & ___ De FURNIVAL [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2005-174625]
Sir Roger MOWBRAY, Baron Of Thirsk & Maud BEAUCHAMP m. Before 1257
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child: Joan wife of Robert de MOHAUT [Ref: CP IX p14 (with corr in XIV p478)] (also CP IX p376(h))
CP IX p372 Mowbray Nele de MOWBRAY, "… He m., before Mich. 1170, Mabel, whose parentage is not certainly known(i)." Note (i): "She is said variously to have been da. of Edmund [sic], Earl of Clare (no Earl of Clare or Hertford was so named), and of William FitzPatrick, Earl of Salisbury,"
Mabel was daughter of William PATRICK, Baron of Patricksourne, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 5/1/2007.
Mabel d/o William PATRICK, Baron Of Patricksbourne & d. Abt 1203 m. Before 29 Sep 1170 Nigel De MOWBRAY, Baron Of Thirsk
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father: Edmund (sic) Earl of Clare, or of William FitzPatric Earl of Salisbury [Ref: CP IX p372(i)]
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father: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 5/1/2007-211551]
William FITZ PATRICK, Earl Of Salisbury & Eleanor De VITRE m. Abt 1191
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child: possibly Mabel , wife of Nigel de Mowbray [Ref: CP IX p372(i)]
CP IX p376 Mowbray Roger de MOWBRAY, br. And h., was a minor 2 Oct. 1230, … He m. Maud, sister and eventually coh. of Simon de BEAUCHAMP, and eldest da. of William de BEAUCHAMP, baron of Bedford."
The wife of Roger MOWBRAY was a daughter of Thomas de FURNIVAL and Berthe de FERRERS, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 7/29/2005.
Joan De MOWBRAY d/o Sir Roger MOWBRAY, Baron Of Thirsk & (Unk Dau) De FURNIVAL d. Before 1315 m. Abt 1261 Robert De MOHAUT, Steward Of Chester
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parents: Roger de MOWBRAY & Maud de BEAUCHAMP [Ref: CP IX p376(h)] (also CP IX p14)
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parents: Roger de MOWBRAY & ___ De FURNIVAL [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 7/29/2005-174625]
Sir Roger MOWBRAY, Baron Of Thirsk & Maud BEAUCHAMP m. Before 1257
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child: Joan wife of Robert de MOHAUT [Ref: CP IX p376(h)] (also CP IX p14)
CP IX p755 Northwode Barony by Writ. I. 1313. 1. John De NORTHWODE, "… He m. (query about 1275) Joan de BADLESMERE(h)." Note (h): "Called in the N.G.R. lady of the manors of Horton near Canterbury and Bowsfield (otherwise Whitfield) near Dover. … Hasted says she was da. of Guncelin (Joscelin) de BADLESMERE, who gave these manors with her in free marriage to John de NORTHWODE. … Her age would make it likely that Joan was sister, not daughter, of Guncelin."
Joan was daughter of Sir Ralph BADLESMERE, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 8/25/2003.
Joan De BADLESMERE d/o Sir Ralph BADLESMERE & d. 2 Jun 1319 m. Abt 1275 John De NORTHWODE, Lord Northwode
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father: Guncelin BADLESMERE [Ref: CP IX p755(h)]
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father: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 8/25/2003-094107]
Guncelin BADLESMERE & (unk-wife) m.
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child: Joan [Ref: CP IX p755(h)]
CP X p48 Oldcastle or Oldcastell Barony by Writ. I. 1409 to 1414. 1. Sir John OLDCASTELL, "… He m., lastly, as her 4th husband, on or before 18 July 1408, Joan, da. and h. of Sir John De La POLE, … She m., 5thly, Sir John HARPENDEN. She d. 13 Jan. 1433/4. He d. in 1458."
Sir John HARPENDEN died 8 May 1438, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Jan Wolfe on 5/20/2013.
Sir John HARPENDEN s/o John HARPENDEN & d. 8 May 1438 u. Westminster Abbey m. Before 1422 Eleanor MORTIMER m2. Before Jun 1428 Joan De La POLE, Baroness Cobham m3. After 1433 Elizabeth COBHAM
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date: 1458 [Ref: CP X p48] (also CP III p345)
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date: [Ref: Jan Wolfe SGM 5/20/2013-223226]
CP X p128 Ormond or Ormonde Earldom. V. 1452. 5. James (Le BOTILLER, otherwise ORMOND), Earl of Wiltshire and Ormond, "… He m., 2ndly, Eleanor, sister and coh. Of Henry and Edmund (BEAUFORT), Dukes of Somerset, being eldest da. of Edmund (BEAUFORT),"
Eleanor was second daughter, not eldest, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Brad Verity on 9/4/2002.
Eleanor BEAUFORT, Countess Of Wiltshire d/o Edmund BEAUFORT, K.G., Duke of Somerset & Eleanor BEAUCHAMP [ES:III-157, AR:1-34] b. 2 d. 16 Aug 1501 m. Apr 1458 James BUTLER, K.G., Earl of Ormond and Wiltsh m2. Abt 1465 Sir Robert SPENCER
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date: eldest daughter [Ref: CP X p128]
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date: second daughter [Ref: Brad Verity SGM 9/4/2002-135847]
CP X p172 Orreby Barony by Writ. I. 1309. 1. John de ORREBY, "… He m., 1stly, Isabel, yst. da. of Sir Robert de TATESHAL [1st Lord Tateshal] (with corr in XIV p518)"
Isabel was coheir of her brother Robert De TATESHALE, and daughter of Robert De TATESHALE and Nichold de GREY, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 9/16/2011.
Isabel TATESHAL d/o Robert De TATESHALE, Baron Of Tattershall & Nichole De GREY d. Before 1313 m. 1 John De ORREBY, Lord Orreby
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father: Robert de TATESHALL [Ref: CP X p172 (with corr in XIV p518)] (also CP VIII p464, and CP XII/1 p653(c))
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/16/2011-154417]
Sir Robert De TATESHAL, Lord Tateshal & Joan FITZRANDOLPH m. Before 1268
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child: Isabel [Ref: CP X p172 (with corr in XIV p518)] (also CP VIII p464)
CP X p336 Pecche Gilbert, "s. and h., had order for livery of his inheritance 11 Dec. 1241. … He m., 1stly, Maud de HASTINGES(a)." Note (a): "Liber . . De Bernewelle, p.50, which calls her illustrious by birth and still more illustrious by nature. She was probably an elder da. of Henry de HASTINGES (grandfather of the first Lord Hastinges of Abergavenny),"
Maud was daughter of William de HASTINGES and Margaret BIGOD, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 12/6/2008.
Maud De HASTINGS d/o William De HASTINGS & Margaret BIGOD d. Abt 1264 London m. 1 Sir Gilbert De PECCHE, Baron Of Great Bealings
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father: possibly Henry de HASTINGS (d.1250) [Ref: CP X p336(a)]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 12/6/2008-130359]
Sir Henry De HASTINGS & Ada Of Huntingdon m. After 1224
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child: Maud [Ref: CP X p336(a)]
CP X p393 Pembroke Earldom XII. 1348. 2. John (De HASTINGES), Earl of Pembroke and Lord Hastinges, "… He m., 1stly, in 1359, Margaret, 4th da. of Edward III, by Philippe of Hainault, b. 1347 at Calais."
Margaret was born at Windsor, Berkshire, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 8/25/2003.
Margaret d/o Edward III King Of England & Philippa Of Hainault [ES:II-84] b. 20 Jul 1346 Windsor, Berkshire d. Abt 1 Oct 1361 u. Abingdon Abbey, Berkshire m. 19 May 1359 Reading, Berkshire John De HASTINGS, K.G., Earl of Pembroke
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place: Calais [Ref: CP X p393]
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place: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 8/25/2003-061548]
note: birth in Windsor, Berkshire, shown by Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1350-1354 (1907) 294 "the king's daughter Margaret de Wyndesore" [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 8/25/2003-061548]
CP X p443 Percy William De PERCY, "s. and h. In Feb. 1136 … He m., … 2ndly, circa 1166, Sibyl De VALOGNES, … She was living in 1212; and was bur. at Nun Appleton Priory."
The burial place of Sibyl is not known, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Watson on 1/7/2012.
Sibyl De VALOGNES d/o Thebaud De VALOGNES & d. After 1212 m. 1 Robert De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley m2. Abt 1166 William De PERCY, Baron Of Topcliffe m3. Abt 1181 Ralph D'AUBIGNY
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place: Nun Appleton Priory [Ref: CP X p443] (see also CP XI p91)
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place: unknown [Ref: John Watson SGM 1/7/2012-184411]
CP XI p91 Ros or Roos of Helmsley Robert de ROS, "br. And h., confirmed (1147-53) to Rievaulx … He m. Sibyl de VALOGNES … She was living in 1212, possibly in 1218, and was bur. at Nun Appleton Priory."
While numerous sources (including CP and Keats-Rohan DomesdayDescendants) show her burial at Nun Appleton Priory, John Watson showed this to be incorrect in his GEN-MEDIEVAL posting of 1/7/2012
Sibyl De VALOGNES d/o Thebaud De VALOGNES & d. After 1212 m. 1 Robert De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley m2. Abt 1166 William De PERCY, Baron Of Topcliffe m3. Abt 1181 Ralph D'AUBIGNY
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place: Nun Appleton Priory [Ref: CP XI p91] (see also CP X p443)
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place: unknown [Ref: John Watson SGM 1/7/2012-184411]
CP XI p143 Ross Earldom IV. 1251. 2. William (De ROSS), Earl of Ross, "… He m. Jean, da. of William COMYN … by his 1st wife Sarah, yr. da. and coh. Of Robert FITZHUGH."
The name of the wife of William COMYN was incorrectly given as Sarah, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Ravilious on 10/29/2007. He conjectures that her parents were William de VESCY and Burga de STUTEVILLE.
(Unk) d/o William De VESCY, Baron Of Alnwick & Burga De STUTEVILLE d. After 1204 m. 1 William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
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date: younger daughter [Ref: CP XI p143]
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father: Robert Fitz Hugh [Ref: CP XI p143]
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name: Sarah [Ref: CP XI p143]
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parents: conjectured to be William de VESCY & Burga de STUTEVILLE [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/29/2007-225008]
Robert Fitz Hugh & (unk-wife) m.
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child: Sarah [Ref: CP XI p143]
CP XI p194 Rothes Earldom IV. 1513. 4. George (LESLIE), Earl of Rothes, "… [Robert LESLIE (of Ardersier), next br. Of the whole blood, … He m. Janet, da. of Alexander (ELPHINSTONE), 2nd Lord Elphinstone, by Katharine, da. of Robert (ERSKINE), 4th Lord Erskine;"
Katharine was daughter of John ERSKINE and Margaret CAMPBELL, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Tim Powys-Lybbe on 2/12/2006.
Katherine ERSKINE d/o John ERSKINE, Lord Erskine & Margaret CAMPBELL m. Before 27 Feb 1525/6 Alexander ELPHINSTONE, Lord Elphinstone
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father: Robert ERSKINE [Ref: CP XI p194] (also CP V p57)
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parents: [Ref: Tim Powys-Lybbe SGM 2/12/2006-092922]
Robert ERSKINE, Lord Erskine & Isabel CAMPBELL m. Abt 1485
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child: Katherine ERSKINE [Ref: CP XI p194] (also CP V p57)
CP XI p239 Russell of Thornhaugh Barony I. 1603. 1. William RUSSELL, "… s. of Francis, 2nd Earl of Bedford, by his 1st wife, Margaret, widow of Sir John GOSTWICK"
Margaret's first marriage was to William GOSTWICK, not John. This was shown by Paul Reed in a posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 12/21/2002. This also corrects CP II p76.
William GOSTWICK & Margaret St JOHN m. 1
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names: Sir John GOSTWICK & Margaret St JOHN [Ref: CP XI p239] (also CP II p76)
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date: first marriage of Margaret [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 12/21/2002-234551]
names: William GOSTWICK & Margaret St JOHN [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 12/21/2002-234551]
Sir John GOSTWICK & (unk-wife) m.
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names: Sir John GOSTWICK & Margaret St JOHN [Ref: CP XI p239] (also CP II p76)
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names: Sir John GOSTWICK & unk wife [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 12/21/2002-234551]
CP XI p661 Sheffield (of Butterwick) Barony I. 1547. 1. Edmund SHEFFIELD, "… s. and h. of Sir Robert SHEFFIELD … by his 1st wife, Jane, da. of George (STANLEY), Lord Strange,"
The mother of Edmund SHEFFIELD was Robert SHEFFIELD's second wife, Margaret ZOUCHE, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 11/15/2009.
Edmund SHEFFIELD, Lord Sheffield s/o Sir Robert SHEFFIELD & Margaret ZOUCHE [CP:XI-661] b. 22 Nov 1521 d. 31 Jan 1549 Norwich, Norfolk u. 1 Aug 1549 St Martins at the Palace, Norwich m. Before 31 Jan 1537/8 Anne VERE
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mother: Jane STANLEY [Ref: CP XI p661]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 11/15/2009-205455]
Sir Robert SHEFFIELD & Jane STANLEY m. Before 1515
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child: Edmund SHEFFIELD [Ref: CP XI p661]
CP XI Appendix D Henry I's Illegitimate Children p108 (3) Rainald de DUNSTANVILLE, "… He m. Beatrice, da. and h. of William FITZRICHARD."
Beatrice was daughter of Hubert de VAUX and Grecia, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 1/25/1999, by Douglas Richardson on 6/2/2006, and by John Ravilious on 6/2/2006.
Beatrice De VALLE d/o Hubert De VAUX, Baron Of Irthington & Grecia b. Abt 1155 u. Mottisfont Priory, Hampshire m. Concubine Reginald De DUNSTANVILLE, Earl Of Cornwall m2. Sir William De BRIWERE, Baron Of Horsley
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father: William FITZ RICHARD , same as Reginalds wife [Ref: CP XI AppD p108] (see also CP XII/1 p298(b))
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 1/25/1999]
parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/2/2006-050244]
parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 6/2/2006-072701]
William Fitz Richard, Baron Of Cardinham & Aanor m.
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child: Beatrice [Ref: CP XI AppD p108] (also CP XII/2 p298(b))
CP XII/1 p110 Somery Ralph de SOMERY, "… He m. Margaret, sis. Of William (MARSHAL), Earl of Pembroke, and da. of John FITZGILBERT the Marshal, by his 2nd wife Sibyl, sister of Patrick (De SALISBURY), 1st Earl of Wiltshire."
Margaret was niece, not sister, of William MARSHAL, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 3/27/2012.
Margaret Le GROS d/o William Le GROS & (Unk dau) Marshall d. After 14 Jun 1247 m. Before 1194 Sir Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m2. Before 1221 Maurice De Ghent, Baron Of Beverstone
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parents: John Fitz Gilbert & Sibyl de Salisbury [Ref: CP XII/1 p110] (see also CP II p127)
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brother: William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke [Ref: CP XII/1 p110] (see also CP II p127)
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parents: William Le GRAS & sister of William Marshal [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/27/2012-155538]
John Fitz GILBERT The Marshal & Sibyl De SALISBURY m. After 1141
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child: Margaret wife of Ralph de Somery [Ref: CP XII/1 p110] (also CP II p127)
CP XII/1 p265 Stapleton Barony IV. 1372 to Aug 1373. 4. Thomas (De STAPLETON), Lord Stapleton, "… He m. Joan, da. of Sir John FITZWILLIAM … Joan surv. Him, and m., 2ndly, ThomasFELTON."
Second marriage of Joan FITZWILLIAM was to John FELTON, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by John Watson on 11/26/2017.
Sir John FELTON & Joan FITZWILLIAM m. After 1373
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names: Thomas FELTON & Joan FITZWILLIAM [Ref: CP XII/1 p265]
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names: John FELTON & Joan FITZWILLIAM [Ref: John Watson SGM 11/26/2017-024439]
CP XII/1 p629 Talbot (of Richard's Castle) Richard TALBOT, "… [Richard TALBOT, 1st s. and h. ap., "
Richard was second son, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 10/5/2003.
Richard TALBOT s/o Richard TALBOT & Joan De MORTIMER [CP:XII/1-629] b. 2 d. 25 Nov 1369
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date: first son [Ref: CP XII/1 p629]
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date: second son [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/5/2003-030124]
CP XII/1 p653 Tateshal or Tattershall Barony by Writ III. 1303 to 1306. 3. Robert (De TATESHAL), Lord Tateshal, "… d.s.p shortly before 30 Jan. 1305/6. … On Robert's death his estates were divided between his 3 coheirs: 2 ladies who were almost certainly the daughters of the 1st Lord Tateshal (although described as his sisters) and the s. and h. of their elder sister(c)." Note (c): "In the inquisition of 1306 the jurors stated that Emma, Joan, and Isabel were the sisters of Robert his grandfather (d.1298). There are grounds for supposing that the statement was inaccurate, and that they were the latter's daughter by Joan his wife."
Joan was coheir of her brother Robert De TATESHALE, 1st Lord Tateshale, and daughter of Robert De TATESHALE and Nichold de GREY, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 9/16/2011 and 6/21/2017 and also by John Watson on 6/20/2017 and also by Kay Allen on 6/9/1999.
Joan De TATESHALE d/o Robert De TATESHALE, Baron Of Tattershall & Nichole De GREY b. Abt 1256 d. 8 Oct 1329 m. Robert DRIBY
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parents: Robert de TATESHALL & Joan FITZRANDOLPH [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)]
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/21/2017-043541]
parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/16/2011-154417]
parents: [Ref: John Watson SGM 6/20/2017-052133]
parents: [Ref: Kay Allen SGM 6/9/1999]
Sir Robert De TATESHAL, Lord Tateshal & Joan FITZRANDOLPH m. Before 1268
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child: Emma [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)]
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child: Isabel [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)]
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child: Joan [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)]
CP XII/1 p653 Tateshal or Tattershall Barony by Writ III. 1303 to 1306. 3. Robert (De TATESHAL), Lord Tateshal, "… d.s.p shortly before 30 Jan. 1305/6. … On Robert's death his estates were divided between his 3 coheirs: 2 ladies who were almost certainly the daughters of the 1st Lord Tateshal (although described as his sisters) and the s. and h. of their elder sister(c)." Note (c): "In the inquisition of 1306 the jurors stated that Emma, Joan, and Isabel were the sisters of Robert his grandfather (d.1298). There are grounds for supposing that the statement was inaccurate, and that they were the latter's daughter by Joan his wife."
Isabel was sister of Robert 1st Lord Tateshal, not daughter. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 9/16/2011 and GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 6/21/2017
Isabel TATESHAL d/o Robert De TATESHALE, Baron Of Tattershall & Nichole De GREY d. Before 1313 m. 1 John De ORREBY, Lord Orreby
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parents: Robert de TATESHALL & Joan FITZRANDOLPH [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)] (also CP VIII p464, and CP X p172)
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/21/2017-043541]
parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/16/2011-154417]
Sir Robert De TATESHAL, Lord Tateshal & Joan FITZRANDOLPH m. Before 1268
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child: Emma [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)]
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child: Isabel [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)]
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child: Joan [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)]
CP XII/1 p653 Tateshal or Tattershall Barony by Writ III. 1303 to 1306. 3. Robert (De TATESHAL), Lord Tateshal, "… d.s.p shortly before 30 Jan. 1305/6. … On Robert's death his estates were divided between his 3 coheirs: 2 ladies who were almost certainly the daughters of the 1st Lord Tateshal (although described as his sisters) and the s. and h. of their elder sister(c)." Note (c): "In the inquisition of 1306 the jurors stated that Emma, Joan, and Isabel were the sisters of Robert his grandfather (d.1298). There are grounds for supposing that the statement was inaccurate, and that they were the latter's daughter by Joan his wife."
Emma was sister of Robert 1st Lord Tateshal, not daughter. This was posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 9/16/2011 and GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 6/21/2017
Emma De TATESHAL d/o Robert De TATESHALE, Baron Of Tattershall & Nichole De GREY d. 1306 m. Before 1284 Adam De CAILLY
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parents: Robert de TATESHALL & Joan FITZRANDOLPH [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)] (also CP III p307(a))
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/21/2017-043541]
parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 9/16/2011-154417]
Sir Robert De TATESHAL, Lord Tateshal & Joan FITZRANDOLPH m. Before 1268
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child: Emma [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)]
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child: Isabel [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)]
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child: Joan [Ref: CP XII/1 p653(c)]
CP XII/1 p739 Thweng [Robert de THWENG, 1st s. and h., … his da. Lucy was b. 24 Mar. 1278/9(h)." Note (h): "I'Anson says that Robert had a mistress, "Matilda," da. of Sir Robert HANSARD,"
Matilda was daughter of Gilbert HANSARD by his unknown first wife, which first appeared in Rosie Bevan's article "Keeping it in the Family: Sex Scandal and Rebellion in Baronial Cleveland" available in Foundations of Medival Genealogy vol 5 no 1 (2013). It was also posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 4/25/2016 and by Peter Howarth on 4/25/2016.
Matilda HANSARD d/o Gilbert HANSARD & (Unk) m. After 1268 Sir Robert De THWENG
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father: Robert HANSARD [Ref: CP XII/1 p739(h)]
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parents: Gilbert HANSARD & unk first wife [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 4/25/2016-161538]
father: [Ref: Bevan Brus p29]
father: [Ref: Peter Howarth SGM 4/25/2016-104634]
grandmother: Maud dau William de MOWBRAY [Ref: Bevan Brus p30(138)]
CP XII/2 p283 Vescy Barony by Writ 1295 to 1297. 1. William de VESCY, "… He m., after 25 July 1266 Isabel, widow of Sir Robert de WELLE (d. shortly before 24 Sep. 1265), 2nd da. and coh. Of Adam de PERITON (d. shortly before 24 Feb. 1265/6), of Ellington, Northumberland, Faxton; co. Northampton, and Rampisham, Dorset, probably by Sarah."
Isabel was daughter of Adam by his first wife, Cecily, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 8/26/2018.
Isabel De PERITON d/o Adam De PERITON & Cecily b. 2 d. Abt 5 Jan 1314/5 u. Malton Priory, Yorkshire m. 1 Sir Robert De WELLES m2. After 1268 William De VESCY, Lord Vescy
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mother: Sarah [Ref: CP XII/2 p283] (also CP XII/2 p438)
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 8/26/2018-050233]
Adam De PERITON & Sarah m. 2
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child: Isabel [Ref: CP XII/2 p283] (also CP XII/2 p438)
CP XII/2 p298 Wake Baldwin WAKE, "… He m. Isabel, widow of Foubert de COUVRES, da. of William BRIWERRE, by his wife Beatrice(b)." Note (b): "Dugdale, who calls her Beatrice de Valle, … da. and h. of William FITZRICHARD."
Beatrice was daughter of Hubert de VAUX and Grecia, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 1/25/1999, by Douglas Richardson on 6/2/2006, and by John Ravilious on 6/2/2006.
Beatrice De VALLE d/o Hubert De VAUX, Baron Of Irthington & Grecia b. Abt 1155 u. Mottisfont Priory, Hampshire m. Concubine Reginald De DUNSTANVILLE, Earl Of Cornwall m2. Sir William De BRIWERE, Baron Of Horsley
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father: William FITZ RICHARD , same as Reginalds wife [Ref: CP XII/2 p298(b)] (see also CP XI AppD p108)
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 1/25/1999]
parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/2/2006-050244]
parents: [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 6/2/2006-072701]
William Fitz Richard, Baron Of Cardinham & Aanor m.
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child: Beatrice [Ref: CP XII/2 p298(b)] (also CP XI AppD p108)
CP XII/2 p438 Welles Robert De WELLE, "… H3 m. Isabel, 2nd da. and coh. Of Adam de PERITON, of Ellington, Northumberland, Faxton, Northants, and Rampisham, Dorset, probably by Sarah."
Isabel was daughter of Adam by his first wife, Cecily, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 8/26/2018.
Isabel De PERITON d/o Adam De PERITON & Cecily b. 2 d. Abt 5 Jan 1314/5 u. Malton Priory, Yorkshire m. 1 Sir Robert De WELLES m2. After 1268 William De VESCY, Lord Vescy
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mother: Sarah [Ref: CP XII/2 p438] (also CP XII/2 p283)
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parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 8/26/2018-050233]
Adam De PERITON & Sarah m. 2
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child: Isabel [Ref: CP XII/2 p438] (also CP XII/2 p283)
CP XII/2 p444 Welles Barony by Writ Vi. 1421 to 1461. 6. Lionel (De WELLES), Lord Welles, "… He m., 1stly, 15 Aug. 1417, at St. Oswald's, Methley, co. York, Joan (or Cecily), da. and (eventually, in her issue) h. of Robert WATERTON, of Methley afsd., by Joan, widow of Sir William ELLIS, of Kiddal, co. York; da. of William De EVERINGHAM, of Laxton, co. Nottingham."
Joan was daughter of Robert de WATERTON by his second wife Cecily FLEMING, as given in CP V p193(c) (which is also a discrepancy within Complete Peerage), and posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Brice Clagett on 12/29/2004.
Joan De WATERTON d/o Robert De WATERTON & Cecily FLEMING d. Abt 1440 u. Waterton Chapel, Methley, Yorkshire m. 15 Aug 1417 St Oswald's, Methley, Yorkshire Sir Lionel De WELLES, K.G., Lord Welles
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mother: Joan EVERINGHAM [Ref: CP XII/2 p444]
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parents: [Ref: Brice Clagett SGM 12/29/2004-120838]
parents: Robert WATERTON & second wife [Ref: CP V p193(c)]
Robert De WATERTON & Joan De EVERINGHAM m. Before Aug 1398
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child: Joan WATERTON wife of Lionel WELLES [Ref: CP XII/2 p444]
CP XII/2 p661 Willoughby Barony by Writ V. 1396. 5. William (De WILLOUGHBY), Lord Willoughby, "s. and h., by 1st wife,"
William was by Robert's second wife, Margaret ZOUCHE, as posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL by Douglas Richardson on 6/10/2004.
William De WILLOUGHBY, K.G., Lord Willoughby s/o Sir Robert De WILLOUGHBY, Lord Willoughby & Margaret ZOUCHE [CP:XII/2-661] b. Abt 1370 d. 4 Dec 1409 Edgefield, Norfolk u. Spilsby, Lincolnshire m. Before 23 Apr 1383 Lucy Le STRANGE m2. Before 9 Aug 1404 Joan HOLLAND
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
mother: Alice SKIPWITH [Ref: CP XII/2 p661]
Other sources with correct Information
parents: [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 6/10/2004-150253]
Sir Robert De WILLOUGHBY, Lord Willoughby & Alice SKIPWITH m. Abt 1370
CP citation with Inaccurate Information
child: William WILLOUGHBY [Ref: CP XII/2 p661]